Political Roundup for May 18, 2017

As Democrats wonder how many some dudes they will have to deal with in their enlarged caucuses in 2019 and Republicans if Vice President Mike Pence knows too much, it is time for today’s roundup:


Special Prosecutor:  In case you have been unconscious for the last day and this is the first news you are reading (talk about being a loyal reader), former FBI Director Robert Mueller has been named Special Prosecutor by the Justice Department to investigate the involvement of Russia in the presidential election along with the always <s>more damaging</s> cover-up.  The appointment was by Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, whom I am not sure how he still has his job after such an appointment.

More Special Prosecutor:  The appointment of Mueller was a surprise to President Trump, which is not a surprise considering what happened to the last guy investigating this mess.  It appears Trump took it well.

Even More Special Prosecutor:  Erick Erickson makes several good points on how Mueller’s appointment is a good thing.

President Pence: Some Republicans are gleefully beginning a President Pence whisper campaign.  Pence is considered generic and boring enough of a Republican that he could potentially save the brand and salvage something resembling a congressional majority.

Republicans Impeachment:  Some Republicans, led by Senator John McCain (R-Real Hero), have brought up the “I” word and Nixon in response to the growing dumpster fire known as the Trump administration.

Democrats Impeachment:  While some Republicans are whispering about impeachment, Democrats are trying to control their Impeachment Happy caucus to not exterminate the Trump presidency prematurely before it causes the maximum amount of damage to Republicans.

Voters:  Trump does not appear to be suffering too much among voters in the Rust Belt states according to Bloomberg interviews.  I am not sure anyone really considers Concordville, Delaware County, to be “Rust Belt” though.


OH-Sen: Senator Sherrod Brown (D-Labor) looks to buck the Trumpian trend in Ohio during his upcoming reelection campaign.  Brown has a strength in his strong ties to organized labor as a means of mitigating some of the disconnect between working class whites and Democrats.

NRCC:  The NRCC had its best April ever from a fundraising perspective and its fourth month in a row over $10 million raised.  The NRCC raised $46 million over the first 4 months of the year, which is $19 million higher than the last off-year, 2015.

PA-12:  Democrats have another candidate to take on Representative Keith Rothfus (R) in former teach Aaron Anthony (D-Bold Progressive).  Anthony seems like a some dude candidate in a district where the Democrats still have a bench, but it is definitely not a progressive bench.  Tom Prigg is also running for the Democratic nomination.


PA-Gov:  Businessman Paul Mango (R) launched his gubernatorial campaign on Wednesday and will be doing a tour of the Commonwealth.  Mango is considered a long shot candidate for the Republican nomination for Governor, but seems to be taking the Governor Wolf style approach of being an outside businessman as the basis of his campaign.

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    • Tekzilla May 18, 2017 at 8:05 am

      Since its just the primary I hope a muted Fist pump is ok with the mods lol.

      This one is going to be super close though, June is going to be a fun month for elections!

      36/M/NY-01 (D)

      • Izengabe May 18, 2017 at 9:08 am

        Of course it is OK. We mods think Perriello is the worst candidate and could help Gillespie win!

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        • Tekzilla May 18, 2017 at 9:18 am

          I really don’t think theres much of a difference between Periello and Northam wrt GE chances. With Tmac popular and Trump unpopular Gillespie has an uphill climb regardless.

          36/M/NY-01 (D)

          • Manhatlibertarian May 18, 2017 at 11:45 am

            I would agree. A couple of months ago I thought it would be a close race with Gillespie, but with the current political climate realistically I think either Dem would win in November in Virginia.

        • krazen1211 May 18, 2017 at 10:10 am

          I think they are about the same.

          Norman made a mistake by nationalizing the race and turning it into an anti Trump whinefest.

          Tom P is basically the candidate for angry white women, so perhaps Norman or Gillespie can use that.

          • Indy1975a May 18, 2017 at 2:51 pm

            Groups like Planned Parenthood and NARAL have endorsed Northam due to Perriello’s previous support of the Hyde Amendment. So I don’t think Perriello has the “angry white women” vote to himself.

            Independent, R until November 2016. Proud "Globalist Cuck"!

    • bluewahoo May 18, 2017 at 8:48 am

      This race, imo, will go down as the most unnecessary relitigation of the Bernie/Hillary primary.

      • Indy1975a May 18, 2017 at 2:54 pm

        If it really was Northam would win easily as Clinton crushed Sanders in Virginia. But many Obama admin people have endorsed Perriello along with the Sandersnistas.

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        • bluewahoo May 18, 2017 at 5:09 pm

          Maybe I should rephrase; the most unnecessary attempt of relitigating the Bernie/Hillary primary. Northam and Periello are both top tier candidates but it seems like all the reporting on the race, and lots of the voters I’ve been talking too, are more interested in who’s “establishment” and who’s “progressive” (either of those could be good or bad words, depending on who you are). I don’t think it has been a nasty primary at all, I just think shoving these candidates in boxes was rather unhelpful for either of them in the primary or the general.

          • rdw72777 May 18, 2017 at 5:20 pm

            Quite hard neatly I can’t believe this primary is happening. Both are decent candidates and given the single term available for VA Guv one would think Perriello would have cleared the Dem field for Lt Guv and that would help him run for Guv in 2021 (unless Herring runs then).

            • rdelbov May 18, 2017 at 6:31 pm

              A good analogy might be that Ds are thinking 2017/2018 look like a 2007/2008 cycle for the Ds. 2021 be a 2013/2014 or a 2009/2010 cycle for the Ds. Of course if the GOP nominates the wrong candidate or has a divisive primary 2021 could be like 2013 and the Ds win anyway.

              Candidates who defer to another can find political climate turning against their party in strange ways. In my cases better to go for it.

              Saying that IMO VA is a bit like NJ. The Ds having to sort out the establishment/Clinton wing of party is fighting the rebels/Sanders wing of the party. IMO this will be played out over and over again in 2017 til 2020 primaries.

              • rdw72777 May 18, 2017 at 9:38 pm

                But I mean any statewide open-seat race in VA is going to be close for the forseeable future. I don’t think the political climate nationa;lly is going to change the fact that Virginia is pretty purple right now and that “divide and conquer (orlose)” is kind of odd when you can “unite and wait your turn” with a higher probability of eventual success.

                I mean if Periello loses this race it’s hard to wonder what he ever runs for again. The next statewide race would be in 2021 (I presume Warner runs for re-elect in 2020) and he’d have been out of elected politics for 10 years at that point and that single term in Congress will be relatively irrelevant. If Northram loses he could always run again for Guv in 2021 having only been out of office for 4 years and having previously won statewide. Perriello’s move just seems hail mary-ish…and stating that as I do he’ll probably win lol.

                • rdelbov May 18, 2017 at 10:18 pm

                  Sure if he loses he might be done–a state wide primary loss did not end Specter’s career or David Pryor and so on and so forth. Liberals in Charlotteville and NOVA are more or less cut out of the same cloth. He has the Obama CD endorsement working for him among AA voters. His natural assumption is that D primary voters are more friendly to him then his foe. Why not run now? Seize the day!! When the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor did we give up. No we went out and won. That’s what people do. Don’t cower Mr. Congressman–“your reach should always exceed your grasp or what’s a heaven for?”

  • Tekzilla May 18, 2017 at 8:06 am

    Annnnnnnnnnd he has his phone back.

    Donald J. Trump‏Verified account

    With all of the illegal acts that took place in the Clinton campaign & Obama Administration, there was never a special councel appointed!

    Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 14m14 minutes ago
    This is the single greatest witch hunt of a politician in American history!

    Oh boy, so much for those stories about his reaction last night lol.

    36/M/NY-01 (D)

    • Ryan_in_SEPA May 18, 2017 at 8:33 am

      Hopefully the Football in his possession cannot actually give the order to launch nuclear weapons and the real thing is with Pence.

      31, PA-6, fiscally conservative communitarian, Giant Meteor 2020 - Just End It Already!

    • HS May 18, 2017 at 8:38 am

      The first is 100% true. Holder and Lynch never crumbled, or were really pressured, to appoint a special prosecutor for Fast and Furious, Benghazi, the IRS targeting, and the NSA surveillance scandals. Everyone of these scandals was far more real then the imaginary Russia hacked the election scandal.

      • FiveAngels May 18, 2017 at 9:26 am

        Sessions recusal was the key event here. Rosenstein is a bean counter, not a politician. You couldn’t expect him to stay firm under pressure after AG took the easy way out.

    • MaxwellsDemon May 18, 2017 at 9:01 am

      He could have said so much worse. If he’s just calling the investigation a waste of time and attacking Clinton, t doesnt really harm him. At least he didnt threaten Mueller or fire Rosenstein.

      • fzw May 18, 2017 at 9:58 am

        If his past is any indication, he’ll be tweeting that tomorrow.

        Currently MO-5. From MO-3.
        R-leaning Indy.

    • cer May 18, 2017 at 9:07 am

      Actually Trump a long with other Republicans have a good point, why was no special council ever appointed for Hillary and Obama!?

      Conservative first, Republican second!

      • Ryan_in_SEPA May 18, 2017 at 9:19 am

        Come on people… there used to be a time when Republicans held themselves to a higher standard than Democrats hold themselves. I know that does not jive with the identity politics fueled rage we live in right now, but we are not going to get ourselves back to being a well governed country without someone trying to be grown ups here.

        31, PA-6, fiscally conservative communitarian, Giant Meteor 2020 - Just End It Already!

        • cer May 18, 2017 at 9:40 am

          Republicans do hold ourselves to a higher standard, but isn’t it about time that the Democrats do the same!?

          Conservative first, Republican second!

        • Izengabe May 18, 2017 at 9:57 am

          I am not a fan of the “whatabout” defense but there is clearly a double standard here. Donald Trump has been President of the United States for a mere 117 days. He has never been given the benefit of the doubt or a chance to govern. Rather a concerted effort by his opponents to resist him, delegitimize him and bring him down has been concocted from the moment he won the election. I’m not a fan of Trump. I did not vote for him. But even I think that this is wrong. Every President deserves the benefit of the doubt and the chance to govern. Trump has not been granted that and that is a terrible thing of our democracy.

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          • GOPTarHeel May 18, 2017 at 9:59 am

            Trump blew that chance through his constant lies about petty things like crowd size and voter fraud, tweeting injudiciously, name calling, and norm violating. If he’d shut up he would have been fine and even dangerous to the Democratic Party.

            R/NC-13. I'll never regret a vote that resulted in Neil Gorsuch.

            • cer May 18, 2017 at 10:14 am

              This might be why that IRS scandal deserved a special council.


              Conservative first, Republican second!

            • Izengabe May 18, 2017 at 10:16 am

              Of course Trump’s bumbling made things worst but lets be honest he was in an impossible situation. Because of the opposition Trump would have to always be perfect and an amatuer like him was bound to screw up eventually. They set up an imperfect man to fail. That’s not how our system is suppose to work.

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              • Ryan_in_SEPA May 18, 2017 at 10:27 am

                No, but that is why you do not nominate and elect amateurs to the most prominent elected office in the world.

                31, PA-6, fiscally conservative communitarian, Giant Meteor 2020 - Just End It Already!

                • HS May 18, 2017 at 10:34 am

                  I agree with both points. Trump was a terrible amateur candidate, and I certainly didn’t vote for him in the primaries (for that and other reasons). But once he won, the media and Dems went way overboard with what they have done. This was even worse than the “selected, and not elected, Bush” II.

                  No Democrat has ever faced this kind of buzzsaw. And Republican voters know this. This caused the rise of Trump, and it will cause something much more serious if it does not let up.

                  • MikeFL May 18, 2017 at 12:00 pm

                    Because the media realized they screwed up by giving him wall-to-wall coverage throughout the entire primary because he was the only candidate that Hillary had a chance of beating and it subsequently backfiring.

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            • prsteve11 May 18, 2017 at 3:38 pm

              You can’t honestly believe that if he ‘shut up’ the left/media would have left him alone? They’re out to get this president in any way they can.

              SC-03, Conservative Republican

              • Izengabe May 18, 2017 at 4:00 pm

                Trump doesnt need to shut up but he doesnt need to make the left’s job easier. If someone wants to kill you you probably shouldn’t hand them a loaded gun! What Trump should do is act like a President and try to govern like a conservative. Instead he acts all crazy and gift wraps the #Resistance an attack to use against him.

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          • prsteve11 May 18, 2017 at 3:37 pm

            I agree with much of what you say. If you look at every way he’s been attacked and smeared since Election Day, it’s truly unprecedented. It all started with foolish idiocies like recounts and harassing presidential electors, etc. Now it’s just being taken to the next level. Unforgivable, really.

            SC-03, Conservative Republican

      • GOPTarHeel May 18, 2017 at 9:20 am

        I’m no fan of Obama but what scandal would remotely need a special prosecutor?

        R/NC-13. I'll never regret a vote that resulted in Neil Gorsuch.

        • cer May 18, 2017 at 9:34 am

          IRS and the gun smuggling scandal out of Mexico…. to name two.

          Conservative first, Republican second!

          • GOPTarHeel May 18, 2017 at 9:36 am

            Both were investigated deeply by Congress. There was plenty of evidence of wrongdoing but nothing to suggest that the normal channels of law enforcement weren’t capable of handling the situation. Besides, neither situation is comparable to bringing in the FBI director and telling him to drop an investigation of your friend.

            R/NC-13. I'll never regret a vote that resulted in Neil Gorsuch.

            • cer May 18, 2017 at 9:43 am

              You keep saying that based on a half read memo, without the whole thing being looked at.

              Both of those scandals that were looked at by Congress could only go so far. The Justice Department pretty much blew both of those under the rug.

              Conservative first, Republican second!

            • HS May 18, 2017 at 10:13 am

              Nobody was prosecuted in these scandals because DOJ refused to prosecute. Because Holder and Lynch prevented this. Hence, there actually was a need for an independent prosecutor.

    • Izengabe May 18, 2017 at 9:26 am

      I can’t believe I am saying this but Donald Trump is right. This is a witch hunt. Did the Russians screw around and hack and sockpuppet the campaign? Yes. Did it change the outcome of the election? No. Did Donald Trump actively coordinate with the Russians? Hell no. This is leftwing Infowars crap. But what happens when you hire prosecutors to comb through people’s lives with a fine tune comb? They fine something! We live in a felony a day country. There is no way any special prosecutor will spend years investigating this to come away saying “nothing’s wrong”. Its their job to find something and that’s what they will did. I mean for chrissake the Whitewater prosecutor somehow turned an investigation into a crooked land deal in Arkansas into an investigation of the President of the United States committing perjury about a blowjob. This will be a witch hunt and just like in Salem they will find witches to burn.

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      • GOPTarHeel May 18, 2017 at 9:34 am

        I don’t think Trump colluded with the Russians. But there is now plenty of evidence that he can’t resist interfering in investigations of his associates like Flynn and Manafort, who have likely committed severe violations of lobbying and disclosure laws. Appointing a special prosecutor is the only way to clear the air. We live in a government of laws, not of men, and no two-bit real estate developer is going to change that.

        R/NC-13. I'll never regret a vote that resulted in Neil Gorsuch.

        • cer May 18, 2017 at 9:38 am

          What evidence, based on a half read memo that was leaked by the way. That should be the next special council. Investigate the leakers.

          Conservative first, Republican second!

          • GOPTarHeel May 18, 2017 at 9:58 am

            I don’t know about you, but I WANT to know when the President tries to influence a law enforcement operation! If it’s untrue we’ll find out in due course.

            R/NC-13. I'll never regret a vote that resulted in Neil Gorsuch.

            • Izengabe May 18, 2017 at 10:18 am

              I WANT to know if you murdered your wife. So we will arrest you, book you, put you in a holding cell and on trial for the next three years of your life and if it untrue and she was just at her Sister’s house for the weekend we’ll find out in due course.

              Let’s be clear the process is the punishment.

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            • Left Coast Libertarian May 18, 2017 at 11:37 am

              Barack Obama proclaimed that Hillary Clinton didn’t compromise national security or endanger classified information. Republicans yelled that he was pretty much telling the FBI the result. His own counsel sat down with him and told him that he needed to refrain from any comment on the Clinton investigation. The FBI didn’t take is as a serious order and ignored it.

              There’s no evidence that the FBI reacted in any way to the alleged suggestion that Comey go easy on Flynn. It seems likely that Comey took that as a friend sticking up for a friend and not the President telling him what to do. Obstruction isn’t saying something. It’s the act of changing the investigation. No evidence that happened.

              • Manhatlibertarian May 18, 2017 at 12:35 pm

                You hit the nail on the head. How different is Obama publicly proclaiming that Hillary didn’t jeopardize national security when there was an on going FBI investigation, and in effect telling them what the outcome should be, from what Trump said to Comey. Isn’t what Obama did very inappropriate? Since Comey found Clinton did not break the law, could Obama’s proclamation of Hillary’s innocence have influenced the outcome of the investigation? There were apparently a number of FBI agents who disagreed with Comey’s decision not to prosecute, feeling it was in fact political. And then of course there was the strange airport tarmac meeting between Bill Clinton and AG Lynch as the Hillary investigation was coming to a climax. Does anyone think they just talked about things like the grandkids? Lynch was forced to recuse herself from the investigation because of that. Maybe Bill Clinton should be investigated for trying to obstruct an ongoing probe also.

        • HS May 18, 2017 at 10:18 am

          I believe the special prosecutor is for the separate intelligence part of the investigation. The Flynn scandal is a criminal investigation. And by the way, the Flynn scandal is a real scandal, where the Turkish government (and possibly the Russians) allegedly bribed Flynn.


          • cer May 18, 2017 at 10:21 am

            Flynn is definitely the one in some real legal jeopardy.

            Conservative first, Republican second!

      • FiveAngels May 18, 2017 at 9:35 am

        This whole “Russia thing” is about criminalizing the supporters of Russia detente. Can’t win at ballot box, but so what? Also, I can’t help but to wonder whether some of these people praising Mueller’s appointement and expecting a quick and simple investigation (Erickson, always idiotic National Review) are really that insane. Like Coulter pointed out, Mueller is the type that’s looking for a glowing NYT obituary. Taking down Trump is his ticket for freaking Deep State Hall of Fame! There will be nothing quick and simple about this.

        • Izengabe May 18, 2017 at 10:09 am

          Let’s be honest Trump’s incompetence has made this worst. Trump boxed himself into a corner in which calling a special prosecutor to investigate tinfoil hat conspiracies about Russia is the least bad option he had. Politically this kicks the shitsandwich down the road but make no mistake someone will have to eat it eventually. The only hope is that it will be just Manford and Flynn and not go deeper than that.

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          • Manhatlibertarian May 18, 2017 at 12:14 pm

            Trump picks General Flynn to lead expedition to Mars! Well not really, I just wanted to get your attention and with the strange political news that keeps dropping every day you never know what to expect.

            Izengabe is right that Trump’s blunders lead him to shoot himself in the foot but on the other hand there has been a co-ordinated campaign from day one by the “Resistance” to destroy Trump in conjunction with their media allies. If he hadn’t fired Comey (a blunder IMO), maybe the Comey memo would not have surfaced. Comey sat on the memo for months and only when he is fired does it get released. If he thought Trump was making a determined and serious attempt to block the investigation of Flynn he should have taken action in February. Instead, from news reports of the memo, he simply agreed with Trump that Flynn was a “good guy” and then nothing happened with regard to stopping the investigation. So even if you take Comey’s word over Trump’s over what was said (and I think most people will believe Comey before Trump) his actions on this matter are questionable.

            By the way the appointment of a Special Counsel is not good enough for Nancy Pelosi; she says Mueller will not be independent enough for her satisfaction. I think the only thing that will satisfy Nancy is Trump carved up and served on a plate.

      • cer May 18, 2017 at 9:36 am

        Big difference, this isn’t an independent council. He will stay more focus on this whole Russian affair.

        Conservative first, Republican second!

      • TennesseeMike May 18, 2017 at 2:42 pm

        I agree with you. The special prosecutor will find something. And the left, who has always been out to crucify Trump, will fan the flames.
        But nobody was burned in Salem. 20 people were convicted and executed by hanging.

        TN-2 District. A Social and Fiscal Conservative Republican

        • Izengabe May 18, 2017 at 4:01 pm

          Nobody was burned at Salem? That’s what a witch would say! Burn him!!!!

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          • TennesseeMike May 18, 2017 at 4:19 pm

            But a real witch would say there were people burned to gain sympathy. Anyway, a witch is female and I am not. 🙂

            TN-2 District. A Social and Fiscal Conservative Republican

            • Izengabe May 18, 2017 at 4:22 pm

              Don’t use your witch logic on me!

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              • Jon Henrik Gilhuus May 18, 2017 at 5:40 pm

                He turned me into a newt!

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                • Ryan_in_SEPA May 18, 2017 at 6:06 pm

                  Considering our (I am approximately 38% Nordic (primarily Norwegian)) shared heritage, any short of blood eagle is not enough.

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            • Son_of_the_South May 18, 2017 at 6:09 pm

              Actually, most of the witches burned in Iceland were male.

              24, R, TN-09
              Classical liberals are a minority. Fusionism is the answer.

      • prsteve11 May 18, 2017 at 3:44 pm

        It is absolutely a witch hunt and the lefties and people who are hell-bent on destroying President Trump are forgetting a key point that Republicans learned the hard way during the Lewinsky era: the American people start to feel sorry for a persecuted president. And the partisans dig in and become virulently supportive of their leader. A good example of this was how the 1998 elections were supposed to be a Republican landslide and instead saw the GOP losing seats and then chasing Gingrich out of office. The Russia narrative is getting really boring and every other day a new ‘bombshell’ report from the Wash Post or NY Times is starting to reach the saturation point.

        SC-03, Conservative Republican

        • TexasR May 18, 2017 at 3:57 pm

          This is not 1998. We now have social media, podcasts, Patreon, streaming news services, and other forms of media which did not exist in 1998. Believe me when I say that while this won’t change the opinions of the ~35% who are enamored with the Donald, as their social media feeds will be all Pravda Fox News all the time, the other 65% will see nothing but new revelation after new revelation, which will melt away at any of his soft support. This is a problem for the Donald as he is not as personally popular today as Clinton was in 1998.

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          Be careful what you wish for

          • VastBlightKingConspiracy May 18, 2017 at 6:54 pm

            More realistically, more like 35% will see any revelations and 30% won’t because they don’t care in either direction and don’t watch cable news or read the national newspapers. I remember telling my parents I had a brief cameo up on a cable news show and they just flat out had never heard of the show. They’re generically center-left secular upscale voters, but they don’t really care about politics, much like millions of people.

            That 30% is going to only start paying attention after Labour Day on September and ask “hey Republicans, what did you do during the two years we handed you total control??” The Republicans will go “uh we held tons of investigations and hearings about a country you can’t find on a map and we might get to healthcare in a decade or so” and this 35% will then unceremoniously kick the entire GOP out of power.

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    • prsteve11 May 18, 2017 at 3:34 pm

      Trump being Trump. If he didn’t respond like this, something would be wrong!

      SC-03, Conservative Republican

  • RogueBeaver May 18, 2017 at 8:40 am

    Sorta political: Roger Ailes has died. https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/865184283836788736

    QC/Blue Tory/M

    • Izengabe May 18, 2017 at 9:32 am

      I have to think the stress from the scandal at Fox played a role in his passing. Very sad. RIP.

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      • cer May 18, 2017 at 9:51 am

        The compassionate left at it’s worse.


        Conservative first, Republican second!

        • Republican Michigander May 18, 2017 at 2:06 pm

          “Usually it’s the right who doesn’t want to show compassion to criminals.”

          That was true in the 90’s. I’ve seen a lot of changes since then. Granted my background is the 2nd Amendment movement, so there’s a lot of libertarian influences there.

          MI-08 - Michigan is a red state again. We need a 50 state strategy and an 83 county strategy.

  • RogueBeaver May 18, 2017 at 10:22 am

    News from Alberta: merger agreement between Wildrose & PCs to be announced soon. https://twitter.com/DonMartinCTV/status/865201039917625344

    QC/Blue Tory/M

    • cer May 18, 2017 at 10:33 am

      I’m assuming this is good news for conservatives in Canada!?

      Conservative first, Republican second!

      • Ryan_in_SEPA May 18, 2017 at 10:40 am

        Definitely a good thing. It looks like the left wing freak show will be ending after one term in Alberta.

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        • kewgardens May 18, 2017 at 1:33 pm

          But its always nice (where possible) to have a political force to the right of the main center-right faction (here the Conservatives) to prevent said faction from straying. Unless former Wildrose members can really influence Conservative policy going forward, that may no longer exist here.

  • RogueBeaver May 18, 2017 at 11:12 am

    UT-3: Chaffetz quitting June 30 to join FOX. http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/18/chaffetz-to-announce-early-departure-from-congress-238550

    QC/Blue Tory/M

    • cer May 18, 2017 at 11:23 am

      Should be an easy hold for the GOP.

      Conservative first, Republican second!

      • kewgardens May 18, 2017 at 1:34 pm

        Famous last words. 🙂

    • Republican Michigander May 18, 2017 at 1:44 pm

      Gee, I thought it was due to some unreported scandal. That’s what the MSM was saying earlier. F’ing liars.

      MI-08 - Michigan is a red state again. We need a 50 state strategy and an 83 county strategy.

      • rdw72777 May 18, 2017 at 5:09 pm

        I’m sorry which MSM reported there was a scandal?

        • fzw May 18, 2017 at 5:22 pm

          The lying ones

          Currently MO-5. From MO-3.
          R-leaning Indy.

          • rdw72777 May 18, 2017 at 5:40 pm

            So none then? Because if I google chaffetz resign scandal I can’t find the article from CNN or NBC or ABC of Fox or WSJ or NYT or…anything close to MSM.

    • shamlet May 18, 2017 at 2:02 pm

      The crazy thing is that UT literally has no laws on House specials. They haven’t had one in something like 90 years IIRC, and that was consolidated with a general. I assume that means it will be a standard convention – primary – general format, but we’re kinda flying blind here.

      R, MD-7. Put not your trust in princes. Process is more important than outcome.

  • rdelbov May 18, 2017 at 11:37 am

    Last little update puts Norman 201 votes ahead


    I believe final election night was 203. Stay tuned.

  • Greyhound May 18, 2017 at 11:42 am

    UK labor party gains 8 points in Ipsos poll since Manifesto launch, almost exclusively at the expense of the LibDems:
    Tories still flirting will a popular vote majority though, and hold a 49-34 lead in this poll. Labour also has softer support.

    R, 26, CA-18. Anti-Anti-Trump

    • GOPTarHeel May 18, 2017 at 11:54 am

      It’s truly remarkable. Labour gained 8 points without picking up a single one from the party with 49% of the vote. Corbyn has ran a fairly strong campaign and May seems to be letting him skate by and not doing anything to risk her own massive lead. We’ll see if the very May Tory manifesto has any impact on VI.

      R/NC-13. I'll never regret a vote that resulted in Neil Gorsuch.

      • cer May 18, 2017 at 11:59 am

        The Tories are still close to the 50% mark. I really don’t think that Labour has that much to brag about.

        Conservative first, Republican second!

      • rdelbov May 18, 2017 at 12:04 pm

        I don’t recall major UK sporting events between now and the election. Germany in a major upset at the World Cup in 1970 beat the UK team 4 days before the national election. The demoralization of the sporting and betting public certainly helped the Conservatives upset Labour that year.

        Short of something like this I suspect May wins by +12 points and maybe exceeds 400 seats.

  • cer May 18, 2017 at 11:48 am

    “Tim Farron and Nick Clegg face losing their seats in Lib Dem election humiliation.”

    This would be a mega disaster for the Liberal Democrats.


    Conservative first, Republican second!

    • Greyhound May 18, 2017 at 12:29 pm

      Makes sense though. Both of those seats are only LibDem because of tactical voting by one of the major parties against the other. Remove that and they start falling like bricks towards their <10% national numbers.

      Though if these two are in serious contention, then the LibDems are in serious danger of being wiped out everywhere aside from Orkney and Shetland.

      R, 26, CA-18. Anti-Anti-Trump

      • jncca May 18, 2017 at 12:43 pm

        Isn’t that true everywhere though. The LibDems are a tactical vote in every constituency but Orkney/Shetland. They wouldn’t win a seat anywhere else if people were required to vote their first choice.

        24, CA-6. Part Obama, Part May, Part Christian Democrat.

        • Upstater22 May 18, 2017 at 12:57 pm

          Liberals/LibDems have certainly been the #1 choice of left leaning folks in southwest England for at least a generation.

          Conservative, because facts are more important than feelings

          • jncca May 18, 2017 at 1:49 pm

            But they’re outnumbered by Tories in every seat there.

            24, CA-6. Part Obama, Part May, Part Christian Democrat.

            • Upstater22 May 18, 2017 at 2:34 pm

              At the moment, yes, just like Labour is about to be outnumbered by Tories in Cumbria. But a swing away from Conservatives in general (bound to happen in the next election or two) means LibDems will pick up seats in the southwest while Labour will reclaim their seats in the northwest. The southwest won’t suddenly be voting for Labour when the swong away from Tories happens.

              Conservative, because facts are more important than feelings

      • kewgardens May 18, 2017 at 1:38 pm

        I can’t help thinking that this benefits Labour in the long run. Unless the Greens become the new “third” party.

        • GOPTarHeel May 18, 2017 at 1:49 pm

          Yeah, ironically Cameron was happy to bring the Lib Dems into government instead of running a minority administration because he thought the increased visibility and credibility of the LibDems would help them replace Labour as the main center-left party in the U.K. That is…not how things panned out.

          R/NC-13. I'll never regret a vote that resulted in Neil Gorsuch.

      • GOPTarHeel May 18, 2017 at 1:52 pm

        Farron is such a lightweight. He doesn’t look like a leader, is too personally religious to be a left-wing party leader in Europe, and is a horrendous speaker with zero gravitas. Clegg, for all his faults, looked and sounded like a competent politician.

        R/NC-13. I'll never regret a vote that resulted in Neil Gorsuch.

      • Son_of_the_South May 18, 2017 at 2:56 pm

        Might they be replaced by a new SDP if may wins her landslide and Corbyn refuses to leave. Could the old term ‘The Alliance’ come back into fashion?

        24, R, TN-09
        Classical liberals are a minority. Fusionism is the answer.

  • edtorres04 May 18, 2017 at 11:58 am

    Montana Senate: Daines says that there is a statewide R ready to challenge Tester: https://twitter.com/KimberlyRailey/status/865198362739560448

    I think we all know that Rosendale is a good backup, but Fox will only run if Gianforte wins next week. If Gianforte wins next week, Fox won’t want to run against him in a primary for gov in 2020.

    • krazen1211 May 18, 2017 at 12:01 pm

      Tester is a lucky duck with 2 sub 50% victories. Kind of like Michael Bennet.

      Main thing is keeping a Libertarian out.

      • CyHawk May 18, 2017 at 12:41 pm

        Good luck with that. Libertarian Senate candidates seem to exist to help give Democrats a Senate majority

        • indocon May 18, 2017 at 2:35 pm

          Which is why we need top 2 in west where these guys just get enough to screw with us.

          • Manhatlibertarian May 18, 2017 at 7:39 pm

            If the Quist/Gianforte race is close (as it may well be) the Libertarian candidate could put Quist over the top in the Montana CD Special Election.

      • WingNightAlone May 18, 2017 at 1:20 pm

        The MT-Sen county swings between ’06 and ’12 are really weird looking, anyone know why?

        25. Saint John-Rothesay. Blue Tory. Equipment finance.

        • shamlet May 18, 2017 at 2:04 pm

          I haven’t looked at them, but my guess is what you reference has something to do with the fact that MT has a sizeable number of tiny (but geographically large) counties where small swings can distort the map.

          R, MD-7. Put not your trust in princes. Process is more important than outcome.

      • prsteve11 May 18, 2017 at 3:49 pm

        I firmly believe that Tester is beatable. He’s arrogant and has misinterpreted his narrow wins as carte blanche to be as liberal as he wants to be. Let’s hope a solid Republican runs against him.

        SC-03, Conservative Republican

    • HS May 18, 2017 at 3:28 pm

      Do you know that for a fact about Fox?

      Trump really hurt us by appointing Zinke. He would have crushed Tester, under virtually any circumstance.

  • Manhatlibertarian May 18, 2017 at 1:19 pm

    There may be a shakeup at “Resistance” network MSNBC, with liberal commentator Larry O’Donnell possibly on the way out. O’Donnell, who hosts the 10PM slot on MSNBC , has gone as far as to say to fans “I’ll let you know where you can find me June 5 if it’s not MSNBC”. Of course this may just be a tactic by O’Donnell to get more $ from MSNBC, so stay tuned. The rumor is that Andy Lack, the NBC Chair, wants to move Brian “Fake News” Williams into the 10PM slot.


  • Republican Michigander May 18, 2017 at 2:04 pm

    There’s a lot of talk about “impeachment” and the like. Bottom line is this. Ain’t going to happen. There’s a lot of talk about massive defeats. That remains to be seen.

    I don’t see a lot of movement right now from 2016 outside of anything but higher enthusiasm with D’s. What I’m seeing now more than anything else is circling the wagons. The MSM is at war with Trump. Most people don’t believe a word of the fake news (as much as Breitbart) anyway. They are the enemy.

    I’m starting to see Trump folks circling the wagons again. Amash is getting ripped apart on my Failbook feed as much as the MSM is.

    MI-08 - Michigan is a red state again. We need a 50 state strategy and an 83 county strategy.

    • fzw May 18, 2017 at 2:12 pm

      I don’t think hardcore partisans who believe all the news is fake are the target audience for Democrats. Impeachment is a wet dream, though, I agree.

      Currently MO-5. From MO-3.
      R-leaning Indy.

  • Boehnerwasright May 18, 2017 at 2:34 pm

    Finally a new poll by a pollster that is not Quinnipiac or PPP. Poll is done by Monmouth.

    Job approval is 39/53 down from 43/46 in March. Some interesting numbers about the Comey firing.
    Best line in the polling memo:
    “It’s getting very difficult to write topical poll q’s when the lead stories are displaced in a matter of hours”

  • StatenIslandTest May 18, 2017 at 2:48 pm

    Agreed on Cornell Soundgarden is my favorite Seattle Grunge/Sirius Lithium band.

    31, Jersey City

  • krazen1211 May 18, 2017 at 2:49 pm

    Interesting thread on David Clarke and his Milwaukee county coalition.


    Crossover Republicans boosted him in 2014. At least he is out of the Senate race.

    I wonder if Kelli ward wants a job?

    • Boehnerwasright May 18, 2017 at 2:52 pm

      I want to remind people that DHS didn’t confirm the story. There is still a possibility Clarke doesn’t get the job.

  • TexasR May 18, 2017 at 3:43 pm

    So, not only did the Donald want the investigation into Flynn ended, but he *still* wants to give Flynn another job in the administration. Unbelievable!

    Whatever we're talking about, it's all Frank Meyer's fault
    Be careful what you wish for

    • fzw May 18, 2017 at 3:48 pm

      It’s really not that unbelievable.

      Currently MO-5. From MO-3.
      R-leaning Indy.

      • TexasR May 18, 2017 at 3:50 pm

        Well for the Donald, no, but what I meant is that it’s unbelievable by normal (pre 6/16/2015) standards.

        Whatever we're talking about, it's all Frank Meyer's fault
        Be careful what you wish for

    • Republican Michigander May 18, 2017 at 4:03 pm

      According to who, the media? “Anonymous” sources?

      MI-08 - Michigan is a red state again. We need a 50 state strategy and an 83 county strategy.

      • TexasR May 18, 2017 at 4:13 pm

        The article says anonymous sources at the White House and in the FBI.

        Whatever we're talking about, it's all Frank Meyer's fault
        Be careful what you wish for

        • cer May 18, 2017 at 4:49 pm

          Well we all know that anonymous sources must always be telling the truth….

          Conservative first, Republican second!

          • Wahoowa May 18, 2017 at 11:13 pm

            Thinking anonymous sources always lie is no different from thinking they always tell the truth.


  • MosheM May 18, 2017 at 4:06 pm


    Amazing political turmoil in Brazil.

    29, M, R, NY-10

    • Manhatlibertarian May 18, 2017 at 7:30 pm

      Wow Brazil is even worse than NY state (where scandals involving politicians from both parties always seem to be breaking in the news).

    • californianintexas May 18, 2017 at 8:34 pm

      What surreal times we live in, with both my and my husband’s home countries’ governments in turmoil.

      34, Female, Libertarian, UT-02 (hometown CA-31), theelectionsgeek.com

  • fzw May 18, 2017 at 4:20 pm

    Air Claire and Tricky Dick both said that Rosenstein said he knew Comey was going to be fired before he gave his recommendation.

    Currently MO-5. From MO-3.
    R-leaning Indy.

  • RTHK May 18, 2017 at 4:23 pm

    NJ-GOV: The second Republican primary debate is tonight. Only Kim Guadagno and Jack Ciattarelli will participate. The link below gives a nice summary of the state of the race (and on how to watch the debate, if you’re so inclined).


  • ike56 May 18, 2017 at 6:01 pm

    As a now retired military man, it’s hard for me to give a good G_d damned flying you know what about anything the current occupant might say to foreign officials (all of which seems rather innocuous and certainly overblown anyhow) when the previous occupant did much greater harm to one of our strongest and most loyal allies, even over their own objections;


    38, USN CPO (CA-52, stuck with Scott Peters until a good candidate comes along).

    • Manhatlibertarian May 18, 2017 at 7:20 pm

      The MSM continually gave Obama a free pass on things that it would certainly hold any Repub president accountable for. That’s why like an number of people on this site, on the one hand we opposed Trump in the primary and don’t particularly like the way he conducts business and shoots himself in the foot time and time again. But on the other hand the hypocrisy of what the MSM let Obama get away with propels us to become somewhat defensive about Trump, because there is a feeling that Repub presidents in general don’t get fair treatment by the MSM. So the article you posted about Obama and the UK missile intelligence sharing with the Russians again fits in with that perception. And I say this as someone who wouldn’t be shedding tears if Pence wound up replacing Trump; but I have seen all too often how the MSM operates. Don’t think for a moment that if Pence replaced Trump it wouldn’t be long before the MSM would find him unfit for office also.

      • w920us May 18, 2017 at 8:09 pm

        And long for the days of the honest and stable Trump administration, if Pence were to become President.

        R, South Philly, 47, Gay, WFU Alum
        #TrumpVoter #NeverHillary

  • MosheM May 18, 2017 at 7:07 pm

    Roger Ailes’ cause of death has been revealed, just hours after his unexpected death at the age of 77 on Thursday.

    The Palm Beach Medical Examiner announced on Thursday afternoon that Ailes died of “complication of a subdural hematoma after he fell at home injuring his head.” The fall in question happened last Wednesday, May 10, at his Palm Beach home.

    Los Angeles Times reporter Meg James revealed the initial news of Ailes’ cause of death on Twitter. The former FOX News chief’s “hemophilia contributed to his death and the manner of death was accidental.” An earlier report about Ailes’ suspected cause of death had alleged that he’d fallen into a coma on Wednesday night as a result of the complications and passed away hours later.

    29, M, R, NY-10

    • segmentation_fault May 18, 2017 at 7:20 pm

      He’s lucky to have lived to 77 in his physical condition

      • TexasR May 18, 2017 at 7:30 pm

        Hemophilia in combination with morbid obesity, yes he was.

        Whatever we're talking about, it's all Frank Meyer's fault
        Be careful what you wish for

  • VastBlightKingConspiracy May 18, 2017 at 7:15 pm

    The Washington Post’s source for derogatory comments made by Kevin McCarthy about Donald Trump…may have been Evan McMullin, who was then serving as the House Republican Policy Director.

    That’s a fascinating position because I am not sure what a House Republican Policy Director does. Since AHCA made it clear that the Republicans held the House for six years without actually having or creating any policies, revealing the ideological and intellectuals bankruptcy of McMullin and his ilk. Just useless empty suits collecting paychecks for nothing.


    I am not a member of any organized political party. I am a Republican.

  • MosheM May 18, 2017 at 7:54 pm

    Update on #MTAL mail-ins returned so far: 209,000 https://t.co/BoeVldOtLU https://t.co/oalLxE8Xub

    29, M, R, NY-10

    • cer May 18, 2017 at 8:25 pm

      What this means, I have no idea.

      Conservative first, Republican second!

    • prsteve11 May 18, 2017 at 8:30 pm

      This shows the more Republican/Trump counties returning ballots at a higher rate than the more Dem ones. I would view this with cautious optimism.

      SC-03, Conservative Republican

    • Manhatlibertarian May 18, 2017 at 8:30 pm

      Absentee ballots seem to be coming in at a rate of 9,000-10,000 a day in Montana; 209,000 returned so far out of 349,928 ballots sent out. Still a week to go before the special election. Decision Desk thinks the total absentee ballots sent in should easily exceed the amount of absentees sent in for the 2014 regular election, the last non presidential election.

      Meanwhile in Ga 6, Decision Desk reports there have been 4079 new registrations (.93% of total registration) since a court extended the registration deadline for the special election. People can register until next Sunday. My gut feeling is the court action extending registration helps Ossoff more than Handel, but I have no idea how much.

  • Manhatlibertarian May 18, 2017 at 8:51 pm

    NY Thursday Tidbits:

    Gov Cuomo’s take on questionable stipends being paid in the State Senate to a number of Dems and Repubs is that if there is any blame it lies with Dem State Comptroller DiNapoli, who has often been at odds with the Gov. Cuomo said DiNapoli ultimately makes the decision on what to pay. DiNapoli’s office says he only pays out what has been certified as OK by State Senate staff.

    With regard to Trump’s woes, Suffolk County GOP Congressman Lee Zeldin says “I will not rush to judgment without facts.” Upstate GOP Congressman Faso and Congresswoman Stefanik also stressed the need to see all the facts before rushing to judgment (unlike some Dem members of Congress).

    Questions have already been raised about Queens Dem Congressman Joe Crowley’s payment of about $70,000 to his brother from campaign funds to rent office space in a building not even in his congressional district, where he already had use of an office. Now additional questions are being raised about the validity of payments totaling $10,000 to the teenage son of his campaign treasurer from campaign funds for “birthday card mailings”.

    all at:


  • Mike1965 May 18, 2017 at 8:55 pm

    Salt to taste.


    Czech newspaper: Steve King’s name submitted for U.S. ambassador.


    • MosheM May 18, 2017 at 8:58 pm

      He would never get confirmed.

      29, M, R, NY-10

      • rdw72777 May 18, 2017 at 9:29 pm

        Why not? Is US Ambassador to Czech Republic something that people will really try and make a stand on?

        • fzw May 18, 2017 at 11:39 pm

          Well, because having Steve King in Congress where he embarrasses the GOP on a regular basis is the most obvious reason to come to mind. Dems wouldn’t have that if he went away

          Currently MO-5. From MO-3.
          R-leaning Indy.

    • Mike1965 May 18, 2017 at 9:39 pm


      Sorry, Iowa.
      It’s not our US Rep @SteveKingIA.
      Different Steve King, Trump aides tell me.


      • GoBigRedState May 19, 2017 at 4:17 am

        Yeah-Ambassador to the Czech Republic would seem like a pretty low profile job for a congressman to take unless they had some particular connection to the country, which he doesn’t.

        45, NE-1, #NeverTrump in 2016, support Trump now as situation warrants

    • Republican Michigander May 19, 2017 at 9:39 am

      Different Steve King apparently.

      MI-08 - Michigan is a red state again. We need a 50 state strategy and an 83 county strategy.

  • aas34 May 18, 2017 at 9:03 pm

    IA-4 opening?

    Czech newspaper claims Cong. Steve King will be named US Ambassador.


    32, R, CA-2

    • kewgardens May 18, 2017 at 9:56 pm

      Why does Trump seem to want to empty out the GOP House caucas?

      • Ryan_in_SEPA May 18, 2017 at 9:57 pm

        What would a plant do differently?

        31, PA-6, fiscally conservative communitarian, Giant Meteor 2020 - Just End It Already!

  • w920us May 18, 2017 at 10:30 pm

    Speaking of Iowa, Governor Branstad’s confirmation vote as Ambassador to China is scheduled for Monday.

    Deputy Secretary of State Nominee John Sullivan next in the queue after that.

    Additionally Amul Thapar’s 6th Circuit nomination has been reported out of committee.

    R, South Philly, 47, Gay, WFU Alum
    #TrumpVoter #NeverHillary

    • rdelbov May 18, 2017 at 10:40 pm

      11-8 vote==my goodness a highly qualified district court judge gets no D votes. One is not surprised. Oh yes mad about Garland.

      • Wahoowa May 18, 2017 at 11:18 pm

        This is probably more “stop the future Supreme Court nominee” than Garland anger.


  • NYC_DINO May 18, 2017 at 10:57 pm

    Does anyone know when to expect Iran results? Everything I’m seeing is predictably opaque.

  • VastBlightKingConspiracy May 19, 2017 at 12:14 am


    Nominating Lieberman would be hilarious just to see the Dems try to vote him down on a party-line vote. And McCain likes him a lot, so there probably wouldn’t be more than 2 GOP defections.

    I am not a member of any organized political party. I am a Republican.

    • Boehnerwasright May 19, 2017 at 1:00 am

      I have no idea why Lieberman is even in the running for the job. He is unqualified as he never worked for the FBI or has overseen a large organization (the CT-AG doesn’t even control the Law Enforcement in the state).For a position with a 10 year term he is quite old at 75.
      But the biggest problem is that the law firm where he works did quite a bit of work for Trump in the past. He even praised Flynn’s appointment in a press statement.

      There is already an article on politico where senate dems makes clear that most of them will oppose him. Dems and the media will rightfully paint him as unqailified, to close to trump and appointing a politican right now is really a bad idea.

    • Jon May 19, 2017 at 5:52 pm

      I’m thinking it might be a good move to appoint Lieberman even if there isn’t the votes; it might make the Democrats look hyper-partisan and so for anything else he just nominates Republicans saying he tried to appoint a Democrat into his administration but Democrats rejected him.

      45, M, MO-02

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