Political Roundup for May 19, 2017


AL-Sen: Former state Rep. Perry Hooper, Jr. (R) who chaired Donald Trump’s presidential campaign in Alabama last year, has decided not to run for US Senate. Hooper was considered for the appointment that went to now Sen. Luther Strange (R). Hooper endorsed Strange in the press conference announcing his decision not to run. State Sen. Tripp Pittman (R) also got in the race after State Senate President Del Marsh (R) decided not to run. Pittman is from Baldwin County, and the only Republican from the coast who is running.

More AL-Sen: In a surprise move, state Rep. Ed Henry (R), who seemed certain to run for US Senate, decided on Wednesday not to run, tearing up his qualifying papers at a news conference in front of Republican headquarters. He also charged that Sen. Luther Strange (R) behaved in a “corrupt and improper manner” as attorney general and suggested that Strange deserved impeachment as AG.


AL-Gov: State Agriculture Commissioner John McMillan (R) is running for governor next year. He joins a GOP primary that includes Huntsville Mayor Tommy Battle, Public Service Commission Chair Twinkle Cavanaugh, former Morgan County Commissioner Stacy George and businessman Joshua Jones. Gov. Kay Ivey (R) has not decided yet whether to seek election to the post she succeeded to last month.

IA-Gov: Johnson County Commissioner Mike Carberry (D) has decided against running for governor next year. Carberry had been exploring a run for the past couple of months. Democrats currently running include state Sen. Nate Boulton (D), former Iowa Democratic Party Chairman Andy McGuire, Polk County Conservation Director Rich Leopold, party activist Jon Neiderbach, and state Rep. Todd Pritchard (D). LG Kim Reynolds (R) is set to become governor next Monday, as Gov. Terry Branstad (R) should be confirmed as Ambassador to China. Cedar Rapids Mayor Ron Corbett (R) is considering challenging her in the Republican primary.

KS-Gov: Former state Rep. Josh Svaty (D) is running for governor next year, giving Democrats their first contested primary for governor since 1998. In that race, state Rep. Tom Sawyer (D) ran primarily to keep Westboro Baptist Church founder Fred Phelps from getting the nomination. Former Wichita Mayor Carl Brewer (D) is also running, and state House Minority Leader Jim Ward (D) is considering running as well. A possible point of contention with Svaty among Democrats is his pro-life voting record.

VA-Gov: The Democratic primary between LG Ralph Northam and former Rep. Tom Perriello is very close according to a new poll. Perriello received 40% in the Washington Post poll while 38% chose Northam. 18% were undecided. Former RNC Chairman Ed Gillespie holds a large lead on the Republican side with 38%, Corey Stewart with 18% and state Sen. Frank Wagner (R) with 15%. 24% were undecided.


AL-2: State Rep. Barry Moore (R) plans to challenge Rep. Martha Roby (R) in the Republican primary. Moore’s decision to challenge Roby is based primarily on her decision to abandon support for Donald Trump last year after the release of the Access Hollywood tapes where Trump made lewd comments about women. The decision contributed to Roby having a much closer than expected race last year, winning by only 8 points over a Democrat who received little funding and party support. 9% of the vote went to Becky Gerritson, whom Roby had defeated in the Republican primary but ran as a write-in in the general election. Moore was one of the first Republican officials in the state to endorse Trump last year. The two come from opposite ends of the district-Roby is from Montgomery at the north end of the district, while Moore comes from Enterprise, at the south end.

FL-27: LG Carlos Lopez-Cantera (R) could be well positioned to run for Congress if a new poll is correct. The poll by Republican pollster Front Porch Strategies showed Lopez-Cantera with 57% in a Republican primary compared to 13% for former Miami-Dade School Board member Raquel Regalado and 3% for Miami-Dade County Commissioner Bruno Barreiro, who has already declared his candidacy. The poll also matched him up with state Sen. Jose Javier Rodriguez (D) in a general election and found him leading 41-34. The poll was taken on behalf of a Republican consulting firm that Lopez-Cantera used in his short-lived campaign for US Senate last year.

OK-1: Pastor and small business owner Danny Stockstill (R) is planning to run for Congress next year. He joins former Tulsa County DA Tim Harris, state Sen. Nathan Dahm (R), attorney Andy Coleman and businessman Kevin Hern in the Republican primary. Rep. Jim Bridenstine (R) is not seeking re-election next year and is a candidate to be NASA Administrator, raising the possibility of a special election.

UT-3: Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R) confirmed yesterday that he plans to leave Congress early, on June 30. This will set up a special election to replace him, but it’s not clear how that election will be conducted. State law does not specify how it’s to be done, and precedent doesn’t give any guidance either. The last time a vacancy occurred in a Utah congressional seat was in 1929, and in that case, the special election to fill the seat did not occur until it was held concurrently with the election for the next term in 1930. Many state lawmakers say they should be called into special session to set the rules for how the special election should be conducted. but Gov. Gary Herbert (R), through the office of LG Spencer Cox (R) who acts as the state’s chief elections officer, plans to set the rules himself. Although nothing official has been released, it appears that plans are to have primaries on August 15(which coincides with municipal elections) and the general on November 7.

More UT-3: Provo Mayor John Curtis (R) appears close to announcing a bid for Congress. He says he is “feeling more and more like it’s the right thing to do.” He says he and his wife will come to a final decision “in the coming days.”

State offices:

OH-SOS: State Sen. Frank LaRose (R) has announced he is running for Secretary of State next year. He will face state Rep. Dorothy Pelanda (R) in the Republican primary. State Rep. Kathleen Clyde (D) is running on the Democratic side. Current Secretary of State Jon Husted (R) is running for governor.


RIP: Roger Ailes has died at the age of 77. Ailes is best known for being the founder and chairman of Fox News, but he had a career as a political consultant before that, and was the man behind one of the most well-known and most successful campaign ads of all time. Mitch McConnell hired Ailes to work on his 1984 Senate campaign against Sen. Dee Huddleston (D). McConnell, then Judge-Executive of Jefferson County was trailing badly against Huddleston in polls. Huddleston had one weakness though-he was frequently absent from the Senate. Ailes produced an ad attacking this weakness-with a Kentucky farmer searching for Huddleston with dogs. The ad, often known as the “Bloodhounds” ad turned the campaign around, and McConnell defeated Huddleston by just over 5,000 votes.

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  • rdelbov May 19, 2017 at 8:49 am

    Apparently Joe Biden and I are of one mind on Hillary-she was a lousy candidate in 2016


    • Ryan_in_SEPA May 19, 2017 at 9:01 am

      So this means we are going to have a geriatric battle in 2020 for the Democratic nomination?

      31, PA-6, fiscally conservative communitarian, Giant Meteor 2020 - Just End It Already!

      • OGGoldy May 19, 2017 at 9:22 am

        If Biden wanted to run, it would have been 2016. I suspect he would have won the nomination had he entered 1/1/16

        • pstchrisp May 19, 2017 at 9:30 am

          Would he really have taken away steam from the Bernie fans though? I think it would have been a marquee three-way battle that tilted towards Sanders and could have gone to the Convention. Sanders was already 36-42% in the polls at the start of 2016, and only getting stronger. Biden entering would have split Clinton’s support, especially among superdelegates.

          • Izengabe May 19, 2017 at 10:04 am

            If Biden ran I doubt Hillary would have made it to Super Tuesday. How bad a candidate was Hillary Clinton? She lost to Donald Trump! Sanders campaign only caught on because he was the only alternative to Hillary. If another viable candidate ran they would have caught fire. If Biden entered the race he would have sucked all the oxygen out of the campaign and won the nomination easily.

            My guess is the reason Biden didnt run was not because he thought he couldnt win but rather because he thought he was too old for the job.

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            • pstchrisp May 19, 2017 at 10:21 am

              I think it would depend if Obama stayed neutral. Then Hillary would probably have still won the South, and she did have organization and loyal female support. If Biden entered in 2015 I might agree, but turning on a huge organization that quickly might have been more difficult.
              Also: https://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/joe-biden-2016-announcement/

              • krazen1211 May 19, 2017 at 12:08 pm

                Biden is a white man, which puts him at a disadvantage. He would have had much less money, much less organization, much less institutional support, and wouldn’t have been able to run left like Bernie.

                What argument would he have had? That Hillary is corrupt, nasty, and hates most people? Everyone knew that already.

                He was polling at 11% in NH in late 2015! He didn’t run because he couldn’t win.

            • zbigreddogz May 19, 2017 at 11:36 am

              “Sanders campaign only caught on because he was the only alternative to Hillary.”


              • pstchrisp May 19, 2017 at 12:05 pm

                But it did catch on, pre January 2016. To think all of those more liberal supporters would jump from Bernie to someone with most of Hillary’s ties is a bit hard to justify. Which is why I said if he got in early in 2015 Sanders wouldn’t have had oxygen. But once he got the oxygen in late 2015, I don’t think people would be peeling off their Bernie stickers for Joe stickers.

                • jncca May 19, 2017 at 1:34 pm

                  It would have been a mix. There is a hardcore base of 25% in Democratic primaries who want a pure person. That’s the Bill Bradley vote.

                  But Biden would have cleaned up with Bernie’s voters in places like Indiana, West Virginia, etc. And there are plenty of Bernie voters who do like Biden (and view him as further left than Hillary because he isn’t a Clinton).

                  Bernie: 25% base
                  Hillary: 25% base (older women, Bill Clinton loyalists, moderates is a decent coalition)
                  Biden: 25% base (not being a socialist or a Clinton, would do decently with Black voters)
                  Then it’s all down to the other 25%.

                  24, CA-6. Part Obama, Part May, Part Christian Democrat.

                  • pstchrisp May 19, 2017 at 2:22 pm

                    I think Bernie would have held a lot of the Rusty areas because he was actually talking to them the way Trump was, plus that’s where the Obama connection might have hurt a bit. But it would have been epic I think.

                    • jncca May 19, 2017 at 3:11 pm

                      The Rust Belt Dems like Joe Biden a lot too, though. Clinton may have come in third in those areas by a wide margin but I think Biden beats Bernie in them. Yes there are single-issue anti-trade voters but they aren’t a huge number, especially when that message is not paired with an anti-immigration message.

                      24, CA-6. Part Obama, Part May, Part Christian Democrat.

        • HS May 19, 2017 at 11:44 am

          Biden probably didn’t run because 1) he knew Hillary would be well-organized and vicious in the primary, and 2) his son had just died. The latter certainly could have depressed him especially. Sometimes we forget that not every politician is making his decisions solely on politics.

      • w920us May 19, 2017 at 12:40 pm

        More and more I think Hillary is gonna run again.

        We all got it wrong. Hillary is Trump’s plant!

        R, South Philly, 47, Gay, WFU Alum
        #TrumpVoter #NeverHillary

    • Republican Michigander May 19, 2017 at 9:43 am

      Considering she lost Saginaw County, Gogebic County, Wyandotte, and Pennsylvania’s Erie and Luzerne Counties, I think it’s fair to say she was a bad candidate.

      MI-08 - Michigan is a red state again. We need a 50 state strategy and an 83 county strategy.

  • Ryan_in_SEPA May 19, 2017 at 9:05 am

    Scottish Labour is punishing Labour councilors who are forming anti-SNP coalitions with the Scottish Tories:


    You got to wonder if Scotland is heading for a Quebec style situation where the SNP becomes the default left wing party while the Tories become the somewhat vaguely center-right Tories.

    31, PA-6, fiscally conservative communitarian, Giant Meteor 2020 - Just End It Already!

    • cer May 19, 2017 at 9:31 am

      Labour is in full blown meltdown, and there is no sign of that ending any time soon.

      Conservative first, Republican second!

    • Son_of_the_South May 19, 2017 at 10:59 am

      Wow. How dumb are these people? Do they want to drive even more unionist votes to the Tories? Right now, you can plausibly vote for one or the other to stop the SNP. If Scottish Labour keeps doing things like this, the Tories will become the only plausible choice for some. This is just amazingly bad political calculation. I like that it’ll help the Tories, but I can barely believe that Labour would be this short-sighted.

      24, R, TN-09
      Classical liberals are a minority. Fusionism is the answer.

    • Greyhound May 19, 2017 at 4:30 pm

      On one hand, I think she’s terrified of becoming the LibDems of Scotland–Its not like the National Tories have become popular in Scotland, Ruth Davidson’s personally popular crusade to kill the SNP notwithstanding. The idea of Blue-Red coalitions, especially with Labour as the junior partner, risks the SNP scooping up the anti-Tory votes that are still quite popular in Scotland by just postulating that Labour is subordinating themselves to the Tories. May is still 14 point underwater in Scotland after all.

      On the other hand though, this is just stupid top-down management for local government. Kezia Dugdale and Ruth Davidson both get positive or at least close to even approval ratings from the other non-SNP parties right now, and its clear from the local results that there are some serious tactical anti-SNP voting going on with all of them, at least on the local level. An explicitly anti-SNP coalition is kind of what most non SNP voters want right now.

      R, 26, CA-18. Anti-Anti-Trump

  • MosheM May 19, 2017 at 9:06 am

    Anthony Weiner to Plead Guilty to Resolve ‘Sexting’ Inquiry


    29, M, R, NY-10

    • Izengabe May 19, 2017 at 10:06 am

      So the man most responsible for electing Donald Trump President of the United States will go to jail! How fitting.

      Follow me on Twitter: @Izengabe_

      • cer May 19, 2017 at 10:11 am

        A sleazebag ex politician is finally getting what he deserves.

        Conservative first, Republican second!

    • Izengabe May 19, 2017 at 2:26 pm

      And Huma filed for divorce today.

      Follow me on Twitter: @Izengabe_

  • krazen1211 May 19, 2017 at 10:09 am

    Texas Straight Ticket repeal voting moves through Senate.


    I suspect 3 is right. This will probably help the GOP in Bexar, Dallas, Harris County elections but probably not be great statewide.

    • Republican Michigander May 19, 2017 at 10:29 am

      I’m not sure that’s bad for Texas. In 2000, yes, but today? How much of the D base in Texas is straight ticket now?

      It’ll probably hurt in the Panhandle, Collin/Denton County, but it’ll also probably help in South Texas, Nunces County, Harris County. I’m not sure if it’s good or bad in Fort Bend.

      MI-08 - Michigan is a red state again. We need a 50 state strategy and an 83 county strategy.

      • Republican Michigander May 19, 2017 at 10:32 am

        I’ll add that Straight Ticket killed us in MI for years in presidential years for the education board races, but we took a bunch of them with Trump’s win, which hasn’t been done in a presidential since maybe 04. Two for State Board (Transgender stuff helped R’s there), One for MSU, One for UM, One for Wayne State).

        Would they have gone our way without straight ticket? I don’t know, but Trump is the reason for those wins.

        MI-08 - Michigan is a red state again. We need a 50 state strategy and an 83 county strategy.

      • krazen1211 May 19, 2017 at 10:44 am

        Here’s some data I found. Trump beat Clinton by 800k votes so there’s a lot more straight ticket Rs. The margin there was smaller in 2008 compared to 2016 I believe. But we did get wiped out in Harris County.

        It’s not like Michigan where we used to get killed 30-20 with straight ticket voting.


        Across Texas, 65 percent of Trump’s votes and 64 percent of Clinton’s came from straight-ticket ballots, according to Texas Elections Source.

        About 30 percent of 2012 voters supported the Democratic ticket; 19 percent, the Republican ticket and 1 percent voted straight ticket for a third party.

        • Manhatlibertarian May 19, 2017 at 12:21 pm

          Well let’s see if the Texas law abolishing straight ticket voting gets struck down because of a claim that it has a disparate impact on voting by minorities. Although from a good government stand point, having people vote for candidates on their own merits rather than just because of party designation seems like a good idea, a liberal activist judge might very well see things differently, as occurred in Michigan. The convoluted argument is that minorities are proportionately more likely to use straight ticket voting and therefore abolishing it will create longer lines as voters take more time to fill out ballots, which then discourages people from waiting around to vote. IMO this is a very convoluted argument where it is hard to show that any significant percentage of minorities will be “prevented” from actually voting because of no straight ticket voting. It is a house of cards argument based on a supposition of the effect of no straight ticket voting. Also how disparate in impact on minorities must a voting law change be to strike it down? What percentage level justifies striking down a law? Nevertheless it wouldn’t surprise me if those opposed to the law find a federal judge to agree with them. However, the federal court of appeals tends to be more conservative for this area, so I don’t know if they will go along with striking down the law.

    • Izengabe May 19, 2017 at 12:12 pm

      Repeal of straight ticket voting would probably help Democrats in Texas and repealing straight ticket voting is the right thing to do. The author of the above story buried what this is really about. “Straight-ticket voting harms the state’s democratic process by encouraging voters to ignore the quality and characteristics of the individual candidates competing for public office.” Its really as simple as that.

      Follow me on Twitter: @Izengabe_

      • prsteve11 May 19, 2017 at 12:30 pm

        They have straight ticket voting here in South Carolina and it’s helpful in a way because it can take a while to sort through all the candidates from federal to local. Personally, I think it’s helpful but I suppose in some states it doesn’t work as well.

        SC-03, Conservative Republican

        • jncca May 19, 2017 at 1:36 pm

          It works equally well everywhere (how could it not work?) The question is whether it’s good or bad to allow.

          24, CA-6. Part Obama, Part May, Part Christian Democrat.

          • prsteve11 May 19, 2017 at 2:07 pm

            Well, my point is that here in SC we still have electronic voting machines whereas that’s apparently not the case anymore in a lot of states. Here, clicking the straight ticket option means you can scroll down and review everything and untick anyone you don’t like. Overall, I like it because it speeds up the process.

            SC-03, Conservative Republican

            • Conservative First May 19, 2017 at 3:29 pm

              In Michigan, we don’t have voting machines, only vote COUNTING machines. The only possible lines are to pick up your ballot and to put it in the machine, neither of which is affected by how long it takes to fill out a ballot.

            • Jon May 19, 2017 at 5:46 pm

              We use both electronic voting machines and paper ballots scanned by an optical scanner in Missouri in most elections*; but we abolished straight ticket voting over a decade ago so the software we use for electronic voting doesn’t need to consider it.

              * Last spring St Louis County board of elections refused to use electronic machines for the April local elections saying it was too close to the March presidential primary for them to program and test.

              45, M, MO-02

        • Red Oaks May 19, 2017 at 2:54 pm

          Does straight ticket voting really cut down on lines though? Whenever I’ve waited in line to vote the bottleneck wasn’t from a lack of places to fill out the ballot – it was from the slow checking in process.

          MI-03: Tired of Presidency; Focused more on downballot races; Chris Afendoulis for State Senate

      • Republican Michigander May 19, 2017 at 1:56 pm

        I agree it’s the right thing to do from a good government perspective since we don’t have a parliamentary system.

        I’ve never voted a straight ticket. I go down the list and make my choices. I came close to a straight ticket last time, with one local office where I wrote in “Mark Dantonio” as a protest. (which as a non valid “vote” counts as a vote for blank).

        MI-08 - Michigan is a red state again. We need a 50 state strategy and an 83 county strategy.

  • cer May 19, 2017 at 11:51 am

    Texas Democrat indicted on 13 counts for his involvement in a ponzi scheme.


    Conservative first, Republican second!

    • MosheM May 19, 2017 at 12:26 pm

      Texas state Sen. Uresti arrested, turns himself in to FBI

      29, M, R, NY-10

  • Manhatlibertarian May 19, 2017 at 1:05 pm

    End of Week NY Tidbits:

    As expected the Nassau Co GOP Organization endorsed former State Senator Jack Martins for Nassau CE. Incumbent GOP CE Ed Mangano has been indicted on corruption charges and is considered “radioactive”.

    Rochester Dem Mayor Lovely Warren has been endorsed for re-election by the Monroe County Dem Committee. She faces a primary challenge from former Rochester Police Chief James Sheppard and former reporter Rachel Barnhart.

    On May 23 there is a special State Assembly election in the 9th AD on Long Island. Christine Pellegrino is the Dem candidate and Tom Garguilo is the GOP-Conservative Candidate. What is interesting is that Garguilo is a registered Conservative Party member who has been cross endorsed by the GOP. If elected Garguilo will be the only registered Conservative in the State Assembly.

    Dem State AG Eric Schneiderman and the US Federal Prosecutor for the Eastern District have both asked for documents pertaining to the payment of stipends to a number of legislators for being committee chairs, when they were only the vice chairs of committees. There is no explicit provision in state law for payment of stipends to committee vice chairs.

    all at:


  • Daniel Surman May 19, 2017 at 1:09 pm

    TX-GOP: Hearing a rumor that TXGOP Chairman Tom Mechler will be resigning this weekend. No listed reasons why, but he has had some conflict of interest issues with his private sector job in the oil & gas industry.

    R, TX-14

  • RogueBeaver May 19, 2017 at 1:12 pm

    UT-3 special set for Nov. 7. https://twitter.com/BNONews/status/865615622226497536

    QC/Blue Tory/M

  • cinyc May 19, 2017 at 1:20 pm

    The Connecticut State Elections Enforcement Commission has released a proposed declaratory ruling denying Democrat gubernatorial candidate and convicted felon Joseph Ganim public funding for his campaign:


    • Izengabe May 19, 2017 at 1:53 pm

      This is why public financing of elections is a disgrace. If he’s eligible to run and is on the ballot and qualifies for funding a commission shouldn’t be able to say he cant get financing. I get that they dont want convicted felons getting taxpayer money to run political campaigns. I dont want that either. In fact I also dont want Nazis, communist, ISIS suppoorters, NAMBLA members, Democrats or Republicans to get public financing. The solution to this is to eliminate public financing of campaigns not to have a state commission pass judgement on candidates. Ganim should sue.

      Follow me on Twitter: @Izengabe_

      • cinyc May 19, 2017 at 2:05 pm

        Well, it’s not like the commission made up the law that said felons can’t get public financing. The state legislature did. It would be pretty bold for a commission to overturn a law. Connecticut’s supreme court might, but a lower-level commission seems like the wrong entity to just ignore a validly enacted law.

        I agree that the ultimate solution is to eliminate public funding for campaigns. I don’t want a dime of my tax dollars going to help those with whom I disagree attain public office. But if they don’t, there are very valid public policy reasons for denying felons public campaign funds.

    • Mayor Perk May 19, 2017 at 2:06 pm

      And here I thought our favorite social engineers in the Obama Admin said convicted felons were basically a protected class.

      30. OH-12. Establishment Republican.

  • prsteve11 May 19, 2017 at 2:23 pm

    I know it’s not exactly an elections topic, but liberal commentator and a co-host of the Five Bob Beckel has been fired by Fox News: http://thehill.com/homenews/media/334239-fox-news-fires-bob-beckel-over-alleged-insensitive-remark-to-african-american

    Apparently, this isn’t the first time he’s said something insensitive to a racial group as the article states. I always thought the guy was a jerk.

    SC-03, Conservative Republican

  • MosheM May 19, 2017 at 2:31 pm

    Tommy Pope congratulates opponent and former legislative colleague Ralph Norman on his recount win in SC-5 runoff. https://t.co/W8PeXSF9DG

    Lead increased by 18 votes.

    29, M, R, NY-10

  • prsteve11 May 19, 2017 at 2:33 pm

    Interesting article arguing that California Republicans from districts that Hillary won are not as vulnerable as some might think. http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/19/california-republicans-2018-238575

    I think Donald Trump’s execrable showing in California was at least partially due to an almost complete lack of incentive for the state’s Republicans to vote. The Senate race was a choice between two liberal Dems and everyone knew Hillary was going to win the state easily. Personally, I think this dragged down down his numbers at least somewhat. Of course, the more affluent educated Republicans in many of these districts didn’t like Trump, but I agree that assuming these Republicans are goners is highly premature.

    SC-03, Conservative Republican

  • Boehnerwasright May 19, 2017 at 3:01 pm


    TLDR: Trumy saying: I just fired the head of the F.B.I. He was crazy, a real nut job… I faced great pressure because of Russia.
    This meeting with the russians may be the single most damaging things Trump has done so far. The disclosure of highly classified intelligence, the optics and now the comey comment.

    I think Trump didn’t collude with russia although there might be some shady ties to russia with Manafort or Flynn but nothing major. But jesus is Trump making things looks bad.

    • Tekzilla May 19, 2017 at 3:17 pm


      Even worse now, someone VERY close to Trump is now implicated in the Russia Investigation.

      2 Scoops just like the President craves! 😉

      36/M/NY-01 (D)

      • Boehnerwasright May 19, 2017 at 3:25 pm

        Remember reports about Jared pushing for Comey’s firing? If he is the one implicated that makes a lot more sense.

        • Ryan_in_SEPA May 19, 2017 at 3:39 pm

          Oh the irony if Jared ends up being the one investigated as in bed with the Russians.

          31, PA-6, fiscally conservative communitarian, Giant Meteor 2020 - Just End It Already!

          • TheWizardOf144 May 19, 2017 at 3:48 pm

            I’m probably the only Alt-Light/Alt-Right type who defends Jared, but if this is true…Bannon rules the roost and I could not be happier.

            • GOPTarHeel May 19, 2017 at 3:58 pm

              If Jared Kushner goes down in scandal, the Trump presidency is over and Bannon presides over a barren wasteland for the next three years while the Trump agenda is completely ignored in Congress. What a flaming disaster.

              R/NC-13. I'll never regret a vote that resulted in Neil Gorsuch.

              • cer May 19, 2017 at 4:00 pm

                Nothing has been proven, but it’s already a disaster… ok

                A few of you are truly starting to sound like a few of those crazies buying into all of those leftwing theories.

                Conservative first, Republican second!

                • GOPTarHeel May 19, 2017 at 4:09 pm

                  Read what I said.

                  I said that IF Jared goes down in flames, Trump’s presidency is likely over from a policy perspective. I’m responding to people trying to take a factional advantage out of this. Populists being thrilled that Jared could be under criminal investigation are like a first mate happy that it was a despised captain who ran their ship into the iceberg-your ship’s going down anyway.

                  It could be nothing though. “Person of interest” could range from witness to potential indictment.

                  R/NC-13. I'll never regret a vote that resulted in Neil Gorsuch.

                  • cer May 19, 2017 at 4:21 pm

                    It could also be just doing their due dillegence, and nothing comes out of it.

                    Conservative first, Republican second!

                • andyroo312 May 19, 2017 at 4:10 pm

                  It’s hardly exclusively left-wingers stunned by this trainwreck of a presidency. I’m baffled as to why all true conservatives (as in, not the entitlement-loving xenophobes who came out for Trump after sitting on their hands for Romney) won’t just band together and throw this buffoon overboard – get Pence in there and have a remotely competent executive running this country ahead of the midterms!


                  • dforston May 19, 2017 at 4:12 pm

                    #ReadyForPence 🙂

                  • californianintexas May 19, 2017 at 4:23 pm

                    That’s what I was thinking. President Pence would probably stop the bleeding enough to mitigate losses in 2018.

                    34, Female, Libertarian, UT-02 (hometown CA-31), theelectionsgeek.com

                    • TheWizardOf144 May 19, 2017 at 4:24 pm

                      It’s like none of you remember mid-october 2016…

                    • MikeFL May 19, 2017 at 4:29 pm

                      Mid-October 2016 we were facing the worst Democratic candidate imaginable who was under federal investigation. We don’t have that now.

                      26 | FL-16/27 | FisCon

                    • jncca May 19, 2017 at 4:36 pm

                      1974 says hi.

                      24, CA-6. Part Obama, Part May, Part Christian Democrat.

                  • cer May 19, 2017 at 4:25 pm

                    If Trump gets cleared, and he signs things like Tax reform, most conservatives will be quite pleased. The only ones that will still be whining will be those on the left and the neo cons/establishment types.

                    Conservative first, Republican second!

                  • GOPTarHeel May 19, 2017 at 4:25 pm

                    I mean I voted for him after all. I’m not sure why anyone would think I’d feel compelled to attack him unfairly. I just want a stable administration, policy wins, and judicial nominees.

                    R/NC-13. I'll never regret a vote that resulted in Neil Gorsuch.

                    • cer May 19, 2017 at 4:28 pm

                      We all want that, and the sooner the better.

                      Conservative first, Republican second!

                  • Greyhound May 19, 2017 at 5:29 pm

                    Because that runs into the exact same problem the GOP had when people were seriously floating the idea of just robbing Trump at the convention. 1) You now have an Angry Trump that will spend the entire rest of the cycle savaging your candidates, 2) You will inexorably piss off the 95% of Trump Primary voters who still approve of him, setting up a huge slate of 2018 Primary challenges by unelectable bombthrowers along with massive 2018 undervotes, and 3) will probably result in Pence losing the 2020 Presidential nomination to either Trump running again or whoever takes up the mantle of “Trumpism” later on.

                    I guess maybe you can try and just hope the “Trump–but not a Narcissistic Maniac” candidate comes along and wins, but I doubt that holy grail candidate exists anywhere in the country right now, and I doubt it would be the the TruCon’s liking regardless.

                    R, 26, CA-18. Anti-Anti-Trump

                    • MikeFL May 19, 2017 at 5:49 pm

                      I agree with this. For people that want him out (myself included), pushing him out for Pence without damning evidence will just piss off his primary base and create all of those problems. With the current trajectory of how the administration is handling things, this will happen on its own if any grounds exist.

                      26 | FL-16/27 | FisCon

                • MikeFL May 19, 2017 at 4:27 pm

                  We don’t have anything proven yet, that’s true. But we’ve passed the point where this stuff is “leftwing theories.” Trump likely will survive, but if Jared somehow implicated in all of this, it would be a complete disaster. No one forced Trump to put Flynn into the White House, despite the multiple warnings. No one forced Trump to associate with the likes of Paul Manafort, Roger Stone, and Carter Page. No one forced Trump to constantly praise the DNC/Podesta hacks during the campaign when he could have easily kept his mouth shut. No one forced Trump to reveal highly sensitive material to the Russian diplomats in the Oval Office. No one forced him to fire Comey and to change his story regarding the firing several times. If you had President Hillary doing all of those things instead of Trump, conservatives would rightly be up in arms.

                  I am uncomfortable with the number of leaks coming out of the administration and the intelligence community, but with all of these self-inflicted wounds that I mentioned above (and those are what we know of), I wouldn’t be surprised if the topics in these leaks are attempted to be fixed internally, but just fall on deaf ears. And while we have a left-leaning MSM who would have likely criticized Cruz or Rubio on policy matters, this is a whole different animal.

                  26 | FL-16/27 | FisCon

                • krazen1211 May 19, 2017 at 4:35 pm

                  Meh. This is this year’s iteration of ‘steal nomination at the convention’, except now some folks are wish casting the overthrowing of the elected President.

                  A political party that is perceived as surrendering to Obama by its own voters really has no space to engage in what is essentially a coup against someone who is supported by our own voters.

                  There’s a reason R favorability among our voters rose only after Trump won.

                  • GOPTarHeel May 19, 2017 at 4:41 pm

                    Oh it won’t happen because Republicans will look at what happened to Ayotte, Roby, and Heck and be terrified. But can you seriously deny that this stuff has crippled this administration’s ability to accomplish anything substantive? That Trump is his own worst enemy?

                    R/NC-13. I'll never regret a vote that resulted in Neil Gorsuch.

                • HS May 19, 2017 at 4:48 pm

                  It’s always a disaster, and it’s always a scandal. And everyday something new will come out, and Dems and scaredy Republicans will be shouting their heads off. Because that’s what they do. But this will not really impact the real Trump voters.

                  I should also note that there is still no proof of collusion between Trump and Russia, and that these other “scandals” often have no proof either. Leaks to a paper may be evidence, but that does not make it convincing.

                  Finally, I have yet to see a modern President lose his power or influence, even under the worse scandal.
                  Even Jared going down wont change that.

                  • roguemapper May 19, 2017 at 5:06 pm

                    I’ve seen modern Presidents lose considerable power and influence. It happened to Bill Clinton in 1994, to GWB in 2006, and to Barack Obama in 2010.

                    Dem NC-11

                    • HS May 19, 2017 at 6:50 pm

                      Although I didn’t specify, this was in response to the statement about Trumps policy impact being over if Jared goes down. It won’t be.

      • Ryan_in_SEPA May 19, 2017 at 3:30 pm

        That is why everyone else gets one. Trump does not want to reward the potential traitor.

        31, PA-6, fiscally conservative communitarian, Giant Meteor 2020 - Just End It Already!

        • TexasR May 19, 2017 at 3:35 pm

          I wonder what Pence did to get punished with a bowl of fruit!

          Whatever we're talking about, it's all Frank Meyer's fault
          Be careful what you wish for

          • Ryan_in_SEPA May 19, 2017 at 3:41 pm

            He is afraid that one of the ice cream bowls are poisoned and did not want to get it by accident.

            31, PA-6, fiscally conservative communitarian, Giant Meteor 2020 - Just End It Already!

      • cer May 19, 2017 at 3:59 pm

        They are talking to someone within the WH which doesn’t mean that individual is guilty.

        Conservative first, Republican second!

  • edtorres04 May 19, 2017 at 3:23 pm

    PA Senate: Mike Kelly considering. (nothing new): http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/rep-mike-kelly-interested-in-challenging-pennsylvania-sen-bob-casey/article/2623627

  • Boehnerwasright May 19, 2017 at 4:03 pm

    To move away from the one Trump disaster to another one with more election impact. According to politico(http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/19/donald-trump-end-payments-obamacare-subsidies-238616) Trump wants to end the CSR payements which likely would destabilize the individual market places in many states. I think this is a bad bad idea and cost cost us 1-2 special house election.
    Just look at the Montana where quist is hammering Giantforte on the AHCA and healthcare and not touching the russia/comey stuff. Giantforte is not really defending the law, which shows that HC is a potent topic for dems.

    Polling shows that Trump and Republicans will most likely be blamed. If you look at how bad Trump and republicans were to sell the AHCA, just imagine how bad they would misshandle millions of people loosing their insurance.

    • dforston May 19, 2017 at 4:06 pm

      Yes, this is stupid. The problem is I don’t believe the CSR payments are authorized by law. Appropriate thing to do would be for congress to pass funding for it.

  • Boehnerwasright May 19, 2017 at 4:36 pm

    Another problem with stopping these payments. Would the CBO still score repealing the CSR as savings for the AHCA if a judge issues a final ruling that they are illegal?
    We are talking about 100 billion+, this could make the AHCA ineligible for filibuster protection under reconciliation as it would increase the deficit. Knowing how little Trump cares about details, this could blow up the individual insurance market and kill the current AHCA version in one move.

    • TheWizardOf144 May 19, 2017 at 5:18 pm

      “this could blow up the individual insurance market and kill the current AHCA version in one move.”
      Which couldn’t possibly be exactly the point…

  • Republican Michigander May 19, 2017 at 6:01 pm

    More “sources” from the compost and slimes.


    MI-08 - Michigan is a red state again. We need a 50 state strategy and an 83 county strategy.

    • Boehnerwasright May 19, 2017 at 6:27 pm

      Why should we distrust these reports, we can’t simply pretend everything is fake news. Trump constantly talks about suspending these payments and there is soon a deadline about the house republican lawsuit.

      And trump has more than once shown he can act without thinking things through just like the Comey firing,. It is a real possibility that he would withhold payments without having a plan what happens next. And that could really come back to haunt republicans in 2018 as million of people that just lost their health insurance blame republicans.

      • cer May 19, 2017 at 8:15 pm

        We also know that both the NY Times and the Washington Post got it wrong that the FBI requested more money to investigate Russia’s involvement with the 2016 election.

        Conservative first, Republican second!

      • Republican Michigander May 19, 2017 at 9:07 pm

        Excuse my language, but the Slimes and Compost are bullshit until proven otherwise. The NYT has been making crap up since the Jayson Blair and Fox Butterfield days. They made up a McCain affair story back in the day. They made up crap with Trump. Same with the Post. If it doesn’t have named sources, it’s crap. I don’t take Trump’s word for things either, but burden of proof is on the accuser.

        As far as 2018 goes, Congress needs to get off its arse and get things done. The chances of 2018 are directly related to if DC has its crap together. If it does (by DC standards which is graded on a curve, not regular standards), then chances are better than expected. If not, the base will stay home and we’re screwed.

        MI-08 - Michigan is a red state again. We need a 50 state strategy and an 83 county strategy.

        • TennesseeMike May 20, 2017 at 1:26 am

          Well said. Everyone is saying something these days. Without named sources NYT or WP shouldn’t be taken any more seriously than Trumps tweets. Less so in some cases.

          And if the GOP base stays home because nothing was done, yes we’re screwed. Better to do something and prove this GOP is trying than do nothing and prove we are no different than before. Conservative politicians talking a good game but not following through has a lot to do with Trump winning the GOP nomination in the first place.

          TN-2 District. A Social and Fiscal Conservative Republican

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