Political Roundup for June 15, 2017

First off, our thoughts are of course with Rep. Steve Scalise (R), who is still in critical condition as of last night after undergoing two surgeries following yesterday’s shooting; Scalise will need more surgeries to repair organ damage.

In elections news, there is a special today for TN-LD-95, an R+28 (2012) seat around Collierville in the southeast Memphis suburbs. School board member Kevin Vaughan (R) should be a prohibitive favorite over attorney Julie Byrd-Ashworth (D) barring something seriously unexpected. The shooting has chilled the news cycle a bit, but here is what else happened yesterday –

Governor:

AL-Gov: Ex-State Supreme Court Justice Sue Bell Cobb (D) kicked off her campaign for Governor yesterday. Cobb, one of the last Democrats to win statewide in Alabama in her partisan court races, seems like a strong candidate for Dems, though she may face primary opposition from State Rep. Craig Ford (D) and/or Tuscaloosa Mayor Walt Maddox (D). Republicans have a crowded primary and Gov. Kay Ivey (R) has not yet declared whether she will seek a full term.

NJ-Gov: Q continues to post this race as a snoozer, as ambassador Phil Murphy (D) leads LG Kim Guandagno (R) 55-26. Gov. Chris Christie (R) continues to be toxic with 81% disapproval.

VA-Gov, VA-Sen: Prince William CE Corey Stewart (R) will not actively support nominee Ed Gillespie (R) after narrowly losing Tuesday’s primary, though he says he will vote for the Republican ticket. Stewart, however,  has said he is now interested in a run against Sen. Tim Kaine (D) in 2018.

Congress:

AL-Sen: Rep. Mo Brooks (R) had a very eloquent response to a question about gun control minutes after witnessing the shooting. It’s worth reading as this should become memorizable boilerplate for every Republican asked about gun control in response to any shooting incident.

AZ-2: 2016 nominee and ex-State Rep. Matt Heinz (D) will mount a second bid against Rep. Martha McSally (R) in 2018. Heinz lost by 14 points even as Hillary carried the seat by five, so he may not be Democrats’ first choice for a rematch in this purple district.

GA-6: Trafalgar has Jon Ossoff (D) up 47-43 on Karen Handel (R) ahead of next Tuesday’s vote.

AZ-Sen: Hoping to profit off of yesterday’s shooting, senate hopeful Kelli Ward (R) uses an email about Rep. Steve Scalise getting shot to attack Sen. Jeff Flake (R) who was there trying to help him. Our only explanation for this tasteless and insane choice of campaign strategy is that the mind control from the chemtrails Ward was exposed to made her do it.

State & Local:

GA-LG: State Sen. Steve Gooch (R) is considering a run for LG. Should he enter Gooch would join a pair of colleagues, State Senate President David Shafer (R) and State Sen. Rick Jeffares (R), and State Rep. Geoff Duncan (R), in the GOP primary. Incumbent Casey Cagle (R) is running for Governor.

NM-Lands Comm: Sen. Martin Heinrich (D) has injected himself into this primary, somewhat surprisingly backing nonprofit exec Gene VeneKlasen (D) over ex-Lands Commissioner Ray Powell (D). Heinrich and VeneKlasen appear to be personal friends, but the endorsement could be a major boost to VeneKlasen’s chance against the better-known Powell. The Dem primary winner will likely face incumbent Aubrey Dunn Jr. (R) in the general.

PA-LG: 2012 PA-16 nominee Aryanna Berringer (nee Strader) (D) will run against LG Mike Stack (D) in this shotgun-wedding primary. Berringer lost to then-Rep. Joe Pitts (R) by 15 points in 2012. She is the first candidate to announce a run against Stack, who has been under fire for allegedly mistreating his staff, though it is likely that stronger candidates may enter. Gov. Tom Wolf (D) is rumored to want to be rid of Stack. Due in no small part to the Stack saga, legislation was proposed this week that would convert PA from a shotgun-wedding LG system where primary winners run separately but are yoked together in the general to a presidential-style system where nominees choose running mates. The legislation is a constitutional amendment, which means it would need to pass two successive legislatures and then a referendum, meaning it could not affect the 2018 race.

Seattle-Mayor: The sexual abuse lawsuit against Mayor Ed Murray (D) was abruptly dropped yesterday, though the accuser says he plans to refile next year. Murray dropped his re-election campaign amid the mess created by the lawsuit and the filing deadline has now passed. However, Murray is now considering a write-in campaign. Should he attempt a write-in run he would face ex-Mayor Mike McGinn (D), State Sen. Bob Hasegawa (D), State Rep. Jessyn Farrell (D), ex-US Attorney Jenny Durkan (D), and many others; if he were able to make the top two as a write-in his name would appear on the November ballot.

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178 Comments

  • GerGOP June 15, 2017 at 7:15 am

    Is it to soon to ponder what the shooting (and the stellar response to the question) does to his primary bid? As in: will it help him?

  • WingNightAlone June 15, 2017 at 7:37 am

    Regarding Stewart, what an asshole. Spares Gillespie from being associated with him in NOVA at least.


    25. Saint John-Rothesay. Blue Tory. Equipment finance.

    • Greyhound June 15, 2017 at 8:25 am

      There is value though in having someone thoroughly hated by the broader electorate yet nominally on your side attacking you. I honestly think Trump would have lost without all the “But he’s not a real Conservative” stuff that gave him some political space in the center. I don’t think Stewart is quite public enough of a figure in Virginia to really fit that bill though, so I guess “active disinterest” is probably the best we can hope for.


      R, 26, CA-18. Anti-Anti-Trump

      • GOPTarHeel June 15, 2017 at 11:03 am

        That dynamic probably helped Corbyn as well.


        R/NC-13. I'll never regret a vote that resulted in Neil Gorsuch.

  • w920us June 15, 2017 at 7:50 am

    Regarding PA Lt. Guv constitutional change, don’t forget the awesomeness that was Catherine Baker Knoll. Those were fun times! 😜😜


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  • RTHK June 15, 2017 at 8:09 am

    Just FYI, the blue highlight for new comments has not been working for me today. I’m on a PC.

    • roguemapper June 15, 2017 at 8:16 am

      Does that mean that new comments aren’t blue or that they’re still blue when you return to the thread?


      Dem NC-11

      • RTHK June 15, 2017 at 8:50 am

        New comments were not blue, though it seems to be working now actually.

    • MosheM June 15, 2017 at 8:17 am

      Working for me.


      28, M, R, NY-10

      • Ryan_in_SEPA June 15, 2017 at 8:23 am

        For me as well.


        31, PA-6, fiscally conservative communitarian

        • TheWizardOf144 June 15, 2017 at 8:25 am

          Working A-okay for me thus far.

        • roguemapper June 15, 2017 at 8:40 am

          I think that the WP update that I did on Friday altered how time stamps are set in the plugin cookie. If I’m on the right track then it’s something that should only happen once for any given user and the length of time that it’s not working would depend on local device/browser configuration. If that’s the case I’m not much worried about it since it’ll cycle away soon enough (though I do want to glance through the WP codex to see what exactly the update did). If it doesn’t go away or starts recurring then that’d obviously be an issue. I hope not, because it’s usually quite tough to fix an issue that I can’t reproduce.


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      • GerGOP June 15, 2017 at 8:40 am

        Same

  • MosheM June 15, 2017 at 9:46 am

    Public opinion towards…

    May:
    Favourable: 29% (-13)
    Unfavourable: 63% (+16)

    Corbyn:
    Fav: 46% (+10)
    Unfav: 46% (-4)

    (via @YouGov, 11-12)


    28, M, R, NY-10

    • GerGOP June 15, 2017 at 10:00 am

      To be expected. May must be thankful that the fire didn’t occur before the election or she’d have lost by so much that not even the DUP could have saved her.

      • cer June 15, 2017 at 10:05 am

        May’s days are numbered! Just a matter of time before the conservatives hit the eject button.


        Conservative first, Republican second!

        • GerGOP June 15, 2017 at 10:28 am

          Question is who replaces her. A good friend of mine – who is very active in the Norwegian Progress Party – is a Boris groupie.
          But Boris always seems to take the Ryan approach: waiting that Power comes to him. With the genuine difference that Ryan really DID NOT want the gig, whereas Boris really DOES WANT the gig.
          But he doesnt really seem to be ready to grab it. He’s waiting for Power to come zo him. It doesnt work that way, though. So he’s out.

          Osbourne is yikes.

          • cer June 15, 2017 at 10:40 am

            The three conservatives that I believe makes the most sense, goes as follows: Boris, Andrea Leadsom, and Sajid Javid.

            IMHO right now Boris has to be considered still the leading contender.


            Conservative first, Republican second!

      • PiT June 15, 2017 at 4:31 pm

        True. On the flipside though, if she could have waited another week or two before imploding then the Tories would have an ironclad majority. May really needs to step down.

  • cer June 15, 2017 at 9:59 am

    I don’t expect those sort of numbers for Corbyn to last.


    Conservative first, Republican second!

    • kewgardens June 15, 2017 at 1:07 pm

      The problem is that he does not have to govern. He can grandstand for the next couple of years to maintain his popularity. And he is unlikely to face much more infighting from the Blairite faction.

      One of the worst things to come out of this election was the “normalization” of a really radical, norm-altering leftist who is really unfit to be Prime Minister.
      In large part because Theresa May ran a horrific campaign.

  • andyroo312 June 15, 2017 at 10:10 am

    Kaine facing Stewart would make him the luckiest incumbent Democrat since Bill Nelson had the pleasure of facing Katherine Harris.


    MA-7

    • Izengabe June 15, 2017 at 12:57 pm

      Claire McCaskill says “Hello”.


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      • Indy1975a June 15, 2017 at 1:32 pm

        McCaskill is a much better example of “luckiest incumbent”. Bill Nelson probably would have beaten anyone in 2006, and Tim Kaine would be favored regardless of opponent unless there is a drastic turn in the political environment.

        But McCaskill probably would have lost narrowly even to a Todd Akin who didn’t utter “legitimate rape”, let alone a better opponent.


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        • prsteve11 June 15, 2017 at 2:06 pm

          Right, I still think McCaskill is very beatable, even in a difficult environment, partly because of the dramatic rightward shift of Missouri and partly because she’s just so liberal, although I guess that’s basically stating the same thing in different ways.


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          • Indy1975a June 15, 2017 at 2:37 pm

            She is not just beatable, for the reasons you mentioned I actually think she is basically toast. I consider her to be the single most vulnerable incumbent senator in the country. Even in a D wave year, I don’t think McCaskill is even close to 50/50 to hold her seat. Depending on the quality of the opponent, I put this race at the border of Lean/Likely R, probably Likely R. As I’ve said before, the Ds would be better off with McCaskill retiring.


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            • prsteve11 June 15, 2017 at 3:11 pm

              I sure hope you’re right!


              SC-03, Conservative Republican

            • andyroo312 June 15, 2017 at 3:49 pm

              Agreed. I think the race is Likely R with McCaskill and toss-up/tilt R with Kander or another Generic D.


              MA-7

  • cer June 15, 2017 at 10:27 am

    Good point, but if Stewart found himself a solid conservative House district to run in his chances would improve. That is what I would do, if I was him.


    Conservative first, Republican second!

    • AJNolte June 15, 2017 at 11:20 am

      He’d have to carpet-bag massively to find a house seat safe enough for him.

    • LtNOWIS June 15, 2017 at 11:20 am

      He lives in VA-01, but Wittman doesn’t appear to be leaving any time soon. And no other R-leaning district would elect a guy from NoVA.


      28, VA-11

    • TexasR June 15, 2017 at 11:26 am

      Stewart running for anything higher than the office he has now? This is all I have to say about that.


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      Be careful what you wish for

  • cer June 15, 2017 at 11:05 am

    Quite moving…

    https://twitter.com/RepRWilliams/status/875176746060050432/photo/1

    Steve Scalise just seems like a truly great guy.


    Conservative first, Republican second!

  • cer June 15, 2017 at 11:32 am

    Wow the NYT finally fesses up to that they screwed up trying to blame Palin for the attack on Gabby Giffords.

    Can’t believe that they even had the nerve to bring this old debunked story up again, but at least they corrected it.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/14/opinion/steve-scalise-congress-shot-alexandria-virginia.html?ribbon-ad-idx=3&rref=opinion&_r=1


    Conservative first, Republican second!

    • Upstater22 June 15, 2017 at 12:11 pm

      The New York Times outright lied in this article yesterday. After being called out on their lies by National Review and others, they corrected it. The original version of the story was still attempting to blame Republicans for the Giffords shooting and said that the political incitement in the Giffords case was far more obvious than in yesterday’s attack. These people are animals. Original:
      .
      .
      Was this attack evidence of how vicious American politics has become? Probably. In 2011, Jared Lee Loughner opened fire in a supermarket parking lot, grievously wounding Representative Gabby Giffords and killing six people, including a 9-year-old girl, the link to political incitement was clear. Before the shooting, Sarah Palin’s political action committee circulated a map of targeted electoral districts that put Ms. Giffords and 19 other Democrats under stylized cross hairs.

      Conservatives and right-wing media were quick on Wednesday to demand forceful condemnation of hate speech and crimes by anti-Trump liberals. They’re right. Though there’s no sign of incitement as direct as in the Giffords attack, liberals should of course hold themselves to the same standard of decency that they ask of the right.
      .
      .
      After being called out on their lies, corrected to:
      .
      .
      Was this attack evidence of how vicious American politics has become? Probably. In 2011, Jared Lee Loughner opened fire in a supermarket parking lot, grievously wounding Representative Gabby Giffords and killing six people, including a 9-year-old girl. At the time, we and others were sharply critical of the heated political rhetoric on the right. Before the shooting, Sarah Palin’s political action committee circulated a map of targeted electoral districts that put Ms. Giffords and 19 other Democrats under stylized cross hairs. But in that case no connection to the shooting was ever established.

      Conservatives and right-wing media were quick on Wednesday to demand forceful condemnation of hate speech and crimes by anti-Trump liberals. They’re right. Liberals should of course be held to the same standard of decency that they ask of the right.


      Conservative, because facts are more important than feelings

      • Manhatlibertarian June 15, 2017 at 12:38 pm

        Gee I guess you can’t believe everything you read in the NY Times. In the Giffords shooting, the shooter Loughner didn’t seem to have any coherent political philosophy but to the extent he did have any political views according to people who knew him, he seemed to lean to the left of the political spectrum. The Palin PAC map was a political stunt and in way was it trying to incite people to shoot members of Congress but merely to defeat them at the ballot box. Loughner was a nutjob who was seeking his 15 minutes of fame, not someone with a definite political agenda.

        Speaking of the accuracy of the NY Times, something that I think should get a little more attention, is Comey’s remark during his Congressional testimony that a NY Times story on connections between the Trump campaign and Russia was largely not true. But the NY Times in an article stands by the story and claims that it came from 4 different “official” sources. So that means 1 of 3 things to me:

        -Comey is lying
        -the NY Times is lying
        -the sources are lying

        Take your pick. Seems like someone is not telling the truth!

        • Manhatlibertarian June 15, 2017 at 1:56 pm

          Whoops my post should should say “in no way” not “in way”.

        • PiT June 15, 2017 at 4:34 pm

          It is sadly common for attackers to be falsely attributed as being right-wing as it is convenient. I remember when the cops were shot in Baton Rouge and the implication in the media was that the shooter was a far-right nutjob. It only came out later that he was a fan of The Young Turks and other left-wing anti-police outfits.

      • GoBigRedState June 15, 2017 at 1:10 pm

        That’s a pretty weak correction. All they do is take out the direct accusation that the crosshairs map had anything to do with inspiring the shooting, but still leaving the reference to it and “heated political rhetoric on the right”. They still make the same implication that they did before, just with an acknowledgment that no connection was ever established. If there was no evidence that there was any connection between the crosshairs map or any “heated political rhetoric on the right” with the shooting, why mention it at all? Jared Loughner expressed no coherent political philosophy, period, and any suggestion that there was any political motive or any political connection to the Gabby Giffords shooting is highly irresponsible at best and outright lying at worst.


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    • Manhatlibertarian June 15, 2017 at 1:11 pm

      I think this is a good write up of the Ga6 special election and what is most important is the article stresses not to try to assume too much about political trends from one special election. A narrow Ossoff victory is not necessarily a harbinger of a massive defeat for the GOP in 2018, although I’m sure a lot of the MSM will greatly exaggerate the importance of this special election. Even if Ossoff wins narrowly, remember the GOP has won two special CD elections and probably will win in SC also on Tuesday. The Dems have thrown everything but the kitchen sink into the Ga election, so trying to say the GOP will lose similar districts in 2018 based on one result is a bit of a stretch, particularly when you consider most of these districts will have incumbents, unlike Ga6.

      Also as of June 14 there are 119,545 mail and in person early ballots in Ga6, an increase of about 8000 from the day before. From McDonald’s bar chart it appears the GOP ballots are still roughly 15,000 ahead of the Dem ones, but No Party ballots is several thousand ahead of the GOP ballots, nearing 45,000. Unless election day turnout really sags compared to April, it looks like the runoff election will likely exceed the approximately 194,000 total votes cast in April. The bigger the election day turnout the better for Handel IMO.

      http://www.electproject.org/

      • Republican Michigander June 15, 2017 at 1:19 pm

        I look at special election wins and losses the same way – the rules don’t apply. Scott Brown. Bill Jefferson. Anything can happen.

        The one real BAD thing about an Ossoff win is incumbency in 2018. That helped Bill Foster (Hastert’s district) and Bill Owens as well. The Owens was D at the top of the ticket for awhile, but Foster district at that time was not.


        MI-08 - Michigan is a red state again. We need a 50 state strategy and an 83 county strategy.

        • Indy1975a June 15, 2017 at 1:44 pm

          The Ds would have had no chance to win the Owens district in 2010 without his incumbency. But I think Foster would have won the Hastert district as an open seat in 2008, however. The reason why the Hastert district wasn’t on the radar was because Hillary Clinton was expected to be the D nominee. After Super Tuesday in 2008 and as it looked more likely that Obama would be the nominee, I’m sure that district would been on the target list.


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          • cer June 15, 2017 at 2:54 pm

            I think this race is a tossup at worse. I still have a feeling that she will pull it off in the end.


            Conservative first, Republican second!

  • RogueBeaver June 15, 2017 at 12:19 pm

    France: LREM projected at 440-70 seats. https://twitter.com/LiveSquawk/status/875382718405771264


    QC/Blue Tory/M

    • roguemapper June 15, 2017 at 5:11 pm

      I wonder if that figure includes their MoDem allies. I’m thinking LREM+MoDem will be at the high end of that range, if not even higher.


      Dem NC-11

  • Jon Henrik Gilhuus June 15, 2017 at 12:25 pm

    Russ Fulcher quits run for for Governor, drops down to ID-1 instead: http://www.spokesman.com/blogs/boise/2017/jun/15/fulcher-drops-out-guv-race-switches-1st-cd-winning-labradors-endorsement/


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  • VastBlightKingConspiracy June 15, 2017 at 1:11 pm

    As expected, Republican congressmen seem to be politicizing the massacre attempt in DC. By blaming it on…Donald Trump!

    http://www.breitbart.com/video/2017/06/15/gop-rep-sanford-trump-partially-blame-environment-led-alexandria-shooting

    The media can get away with all of its crap because Republican politicians endorse everything they do.


    I am not a member of any organized political party. I am a Republican.

    • prsteve11 June 15, 2017 at 1:28 pm

      Mark Sanford is just being hypocritical. How would he like it if someone blamed him for contributing to politicians having low morals because he cheated on his wife? I live in SC and have never liked the guy.


      SC-03, Conservative Republican

      • Manhatlibertarian June 15, 2017 at 2:21 pm

        How is it that the GOP winds up with characters like Sanford among others? But then the Dems got Weiner on the other hand. Reminds me of an old Monty Python skit, where the Silly Party and the Very Silly Party contest the British election.

        • VastBlightKingConspiracy June 15, 2017 at 2:27 pm

          In an alternative universe, New York Mayor Anthony Weiner is running for President against South Carolina Governor Mark Sanford and Independent Candidate Donald Trump, when the sexting scandal, pussy tape, and Argentina disappearance all hit the news cycle at the same time in early October.


          I am not a member of any organized political party. I am a Republican.

          • Indy1975a June 15, 2017 at 2:46 pm

            Yeah well this one is easy. Sanford by a million miles. His scandal is the least bad by modern standards, and he’d be by far the most qualified (as a two-term Governor) to be President.


            Independent, R until November 2016. Proud "Globalist Cuck"!

    • indocon June 15, 2017 at 3:00 pm

      At this point I am on the border of completely handing the keys to Pelosi, Republicans don’t deserve to rule.

      • VastBlightKingConspiracy June 15, 2017 at 3:16 pm

        It’s really fascinating that we’re looking at more massive anti-incumbent wave elections more frequently than perhaps almost anytime in US history. 2006. 2008. 2010. 2014. And soon to be 2018. Really, in 5/7 elections, the US electorate looked at their governing politicians and gave them almost historically unprecedented votes of no confidence.

        It’s almost as if the political class and establishment of both parties are utterly incompetent and incapable of actually governing and everyone gets buyer’s remorse no matter who they put in charge, because the swamp shouldn’t be drained. It should be burned.


        I am not a member of any organized political party. I am a Republican.

        • Son_of_the_South June 15, 2017 at 5:17 pm

          I think you have the cause of the problem backwards. Yes, there is much incompetence and inability to govern that causes constant buyer’s remorse, but that’s more the fault of the voters’ themselves (and advances in technology) than of the politicians they elect and the unelected officials in DC. ‘The swamp,’ as it’s characterized, has always existed. It’s what allows, or in the past allowed, DC to run smoothly and in a bipartisan fashion. There was always voter sentiment for more transparent and ethical government. When the swamp itself thought that reform was needed, it delivered (civil service reform, a crackdown on bribery, etc). However, Recent restrictions conflict with people’s lives and friendships. It prevents bipartisan norms and camaraderie. You can either have transparent and clean government or swampy, bipartisan and effective government. You can’t have both. By tearing down the barriers and time lags between people, the media, and officials, technology has made it worse. In a parliamentary system, this would be a smaller problem. However, in a system designed to be as deliberative ours is, more transparency and accountability hobbles the system.


          24, R, TN-09
          Classical liberals are a minority. Fusionism is the answer.

          • VastBlightKingConspiracy June 15, 2017 at 5:51 pm

            I think that’s an argument for why things aren’t done, but it doesn’t show why any of those things would be good if we were doing them

            Say we gave the Bush people, the GOP establishment people a blank check to do anything they wanted. Would we actually get good policy? I suspect almost certainly not. Because we saw what they gave us. Hundreds of thousands dead, New Orleans drowned, record deficits, a Wall Street bailout, and the effective death of conservatism among American voters.

            A lot of people talk about how it’s tragic that the party as an institution has declined because it’s led to extremism on both sides. And that part is true. But would the party as an institution actually do good things? In a functional democracy, party establishments try to compromise with popular will. This is generally called politics. Like the British Tories and Liberals slowly expanding the franchise.

            But what we have today are party establishments that totally seek to negate the public will. They are so arrogant, they think they are now too good to engage in politics (aka their job). And now the pipe dream of swamp members is for both parties to collude to end any semblance of democracy forever.

            It’s also striking the “swamp” is more ideological than ever. They used to be ideologically diverse. Texas oil men and Boston Brahmins were pretty different. Now, they all hold the exact same neoliberal/neoconservative ideology and sneer in the same way at the rest of the country.


            I am not a member of any organized political party. I am a Republican.

            • Son_of_the_South June 15, 2017 at 5:58 pm

              Well, the last part of that is also an effect of technology. Greater connectivity is breaking down regional differences. As a national culture is forged, regional elites become even more interconnected and united than they were previously.


              24, R, TN-09
              Classical liberals are a minority. Fusionism is the answer.

      • GerGOP June 15, 2017 at 5:39 pm

        This. Let them rip it apart and try to rebuild afterwards. Although that’s easy for me to say.

  • VastBlightKingConspiracy June 15, 2017 at 1:36 pm

    I actually wonder how much of the increase in polarization and ideological hate is related to the growing proportion of Americans who attend college. It seems that most of the time when you see stories about people advocating political execution, assassinations, violence, etc., they’re coming from college professors and students, almost entirely in non-vocational educational tracks (humanities fields, as opposed to STEM or business schools).

    Almost all the craziest, most violent, most hateful people in society are funded by taxpayer dollars.

    http://www.campusreform.org/?ID=9316


    I am not a member of any organized political party. I am a Republican.

    • VastBlightKingConspiracy June 15, 2017 at 1:48 pm

      Though to be entirely fair to our colleges, the proliferation of silly majors might be an outcome of insufficient funding to our universities. A family friend who is a trustee of a relatively prominent college actually explained to me how a lot of the silly majors actually subsidize the vocational fields. IE, it probably costs a lot less than tuition to “educate” someone in critical race theory or women’s studies, but it actually costs more than tuition to educate someone in chemistry (labs are expensive!) And some departments that don’t seem like they’d be expensive (finance) actually do end up kinda expensive to run.

      I of course, would be willing to pay more in taxes to some people if it meant we got to stop paying other people to call for the beheading of Republicans and cheer on incidents like yesterday’s attack.


      I am not a member of any organized political party. I am a Republican.

    • andyroo312 June 15, 2017 at 3:53 pm

      Ah yes, the more education, the more violence. Makes complete sense!


      MA-7

      • californianintexas June 15, 2017 at 4:11 pm

        “Educated idiots”.


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        • Ryan_in_SEPA June 15, 2017 at 5:27 pm

          I would not say education by itself is the problem. If a society properly uses talent for the common good is the problem, but even then there always will be many educated idiots.


          31, PA-6, fiscally conservative communitarian

      • VastBlightKingConspiracy June 15, 2017 at 4:34 pm

        Yes, it’s crazy how reality can contradict the worldviews of those who imagine themselves as everyone’s betters.

        http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/isis-documents-leak-reveals-profile-of-average-militant-as-young-well-educated-but-with-only-basic-a6995111.html

        ISIS members, the 9/11 perpetrators, most Nazi stormtroopers, most early Bolsheviks, everyone involved in the Cultural Revolution, you know, all of the damn white nationalists. Yes, they were all indeed well educated.


        I am not a member of any organized political party. I am a Republican.

      • cer June 15, 2017 at 5:00 pm

        Well….seeing that much of the violence is coming from college kids, I believe there is certainly some merit to who is committing these violent acts.

        You know things like beating up people that you don’t agree with or destroying things on campus.


        Conservative first, Republican second!

        • VastBlightKingConspiracy June 15, 2017 at 5:09 pm

          My favorite example are the students patrolling the campus of Evergreen State with baseball bats to enforce their “campus without whites”

          http://reason.com/blog/2017/06/08/evergreen-state-college-protests-campus

          http://dailycaller.com/2017/06/06/evergreen-state-officials-ask-student-vigilantes-to-stop-patrolling-campus-with-baseball-bats/


          I am not a member of any organized political party. I am a Republican.

          • roguemapper June 15, 2017 at 5:15 pm

            Well, they aren’t doing a very good job of it considering 7 of the 8 students in that photo appear to be white. 4 of the white students even have bats! There must be something else going on than what you claimed. To be clear, though, I oppose bat-wielding vigilantes! PS. I’ve been wondering lately, do you actually read articles before posting links to them?


            Dem NC-11

            • VastBlightKingConspiracy June 15, 2017 at 5:25 pm

              Actually, I suspect holding crazy racial theories and being obsessed with whiteness and white privilege is actually postively correlated with whiteness. See, Middlebury


              I am not a member of any organized political party. I am a Republican.

              • Ryan_in_SEPA June 15, 2017 at 5:28 pm

                Yep. I have never met a minority who actually espouses such theories in the real world.


                31, PA-6, fiscally conservative communitarian

              • roguemapper June 15, 2017 at 5:37 pm

                For what it’s worth, I’m certainly not going to debate this issue here, but I’ll give my view on it. When I first read about this story a couple weeks ago (from links that you posted here) I was 100% on board with Bret Weinstein. Then I actually went and read the email exchange that sparked all of this and it’s abundantly clear that Rashida Love did not in fact ask for white students to stay off campus for Day of Absence. Weinstein completely twisted her original email to the point that I actually suspect it was deliberate. So, yeah, I think the student reaction is over the top for sure, but with regard to the original email exchange, his WSJ op-ed, and his Fox News appearance I haven’t the slightest sympathy for Weinstein’s lies. In fact, I hope he loses his job for creating this needless uproar.


                Dem NC-11

  • Izengabe June 15, 2017 at 1:47 pm

    FL-23: Tim Canova is back to take another go at Debbie Wasserman Schultz.
    http://observer.com/2017/06/tim-canova-announces-rematch-debbie-wasserman-schultz/


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    • Izengabe June 15, 2017 at 1:51 pm

      This is actually unfortunate. Canova was considering running a primary challenge to Bill Nelson.


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      • segmentation_fault June 15, 2017 at 2:45 pm

        What makes you think he would have come close to winning? Washerman Schultz is a horribly unappealing politician – and as establishment as you can get – and yet she still beat Canova. Also, Alan Grayson lost by 40 and just this week a George W Bush supporter beat a Berniecrat in Virginia. Democrats aren’t interested.


        core dumped

        • Indy1975a June 15, 2017 at 2:53 pm

          It depends on the state. Virginia and Florida, as do most states, prefer establishment Democrats. Hillary crushed Bernie in both of these states.
          Perriello’s biggest problem was that he was unable to make any inroads among older blacks and didn’t do well among suburbanites in northern Virginia. Had he done either, it would have been much more competitive. Perriello had the opportunity, he was more an Obamacrat than he was a Berniecrat (who would have lost by 25-30% minimum) . He simply failed.


          Independent, R until November 2016. Proud "Globalist Cuck"!

          • VastBlightKingConspiracy June 15, 2017 at 2:55 pm

            Corey Stewart did a lot better among NoVa Republicans than Perriello did among NoVA Democrats…


            I am not a member of any organized political party. I am a Republican.

            • Son_of_the_South June 15, 2017 at 3:02 pm

              Well, at this point most NoVa Republicans are pretty hardcore. Most of the moderates have fled to the Democrats or become Independents.


              24, R, TN-09
              Classical liberals are a minority. Fusionism is the answer.

            • MikeFL June 15, 2017 at 3:09 pm

              Stewart is from Prince William County, which probably helped him some.


              26 | FL-16/27 | FisCon

            • Indy1975a June 15, 2017 at 3:15 pm

              I think his more reasonable previously held positions on abortion and guns didn’t help Perriello in NoVA. Northam, for whatever his moderation on other issues, has been a die hard firebreathing defender of abortion on demand throughout his career.


              Independent, R until November 2016. Proud "Globalist Cuck"!

          • segmentation_fault June 15, 2017 at 2:59 pm

            It does depend on the state, but then again in the primary Bernie mostly won in red/flyover states where Democrats never win anyway. That’s why if I had to bank on one Dem losing a primary to the left in 2018 I’d say Heitkamp, but I really don’t think any Dems are going to lose primaries to these Berniecrats or Justice Democrats or whatever they’re called.


            core dumped

            • Indy1975a June 15, 2017 at 3:07 pm

              If the Berniecrats are united, I think one could win a primary for Wisconsin or Iowa Governor. I could see easily a Berniecrat winning a open primary in Oregon, and perhaps getting into the top two in Washington. But that’s about it. And I could see some red states voting D for Governor in 2018, but maybe not for Berniecrats.


              Independent, R until November 2016. Proud "Globalist Cuck"!

        • Izengabe June 15, 2017 at 3:10 pm

          @SEGMENTATION_FAULT If he ran Canova probably would not have beaten Nelson but by not running he will definitely not beat Nelson! My point is forcing Nelson to spend money to fend off a progressive challenge would probably be a good thing for the GOP since it would prevent him from spending 100% of his time going after Scott.


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          • fzw June 15, 2017 at 3:32 pm

            If Scott has even a fraction of the political instinct I think he has, I think he’ll know better than to waste his time and money against Bill Nelson in 2018


            Currently MO-5. From MO-3.
            R-leaning Indy.

            • Red Oaks June 15, 2017 at 3:42 pm

              What else is there to run for in the near future though? Plus although unlikely at this point, there is a chance that Nelson retires so it is a good idea to be ready for a possible open seat race.


              MI-03: Tired of Presidency; Focused more on downballot races; Chris Afendoulis for State Senate

              • fzw June 15, 2017 at 3:46 pm

                You’re right in that if he wants to continue his career as an elected official, Senate is the only real option. But he could probably easily get a Trump appointment if he wanted to without having to burn through a hundred million dollars of his own fortune to likely lose anyway.

                And Nelson is almost certainly not retiring. His war chest, statements and public events suggests he has no plans to do so, and I doubt Scott threatening to run deters him, particularly knowing he’ll likely be the beneficiary of a Trump backlash


                Currently MO-5. From MO-3.
                R-leaning Indy.

  • Manhatlibertarian June 15, 2017 at 2:14 pm

    Thursday Tidbits NY:

    The latest Marist Poll (6/6-6/10 703RV) indicates that Gov Cuomo would easily defeat any of several GOP challengers by a large margin in 2018. He would get 58% of the vote against Westchester CE Rob Astorino, the GOP frontrunner, who would only get 26% with 16% Undecided. In 2014, Cuomo beat Astorino by about 13% as I recall, and Astorino carried NY state outside of NYC.

    On the other hand by 51% to 38%, New Yorkers don’t want Cuomo to run for Pres in 2020.

    Upstate NY GOP Congressman Chris Collins, a big Trump supporter from day one, says that from now on he will pack a gun in public on most occasions as a result of the ballpark massacre.

    Jeb Bush has endorsed real estate developer Paul Massey in the NYC GOP primary for mayor; Massey’s main opponent is Assemblywoman Nicole Malliotakis. Well that does it! With Jeb Bush’s great influence over NYC Repubs, I don’t see how Malliotakis stands a chance now (snark).

    http://www.nystateofpolitics.com/

  • Republican Michigander June 15, 2017 at 3:03 pm

    Matt Mika is still in critical condition.

    http://www.lansingstatejournal.com/story/news/local/michigan/2017/06/15/michigan-lobbyist-congressional-shooting/399636001/


    MI-08 - Michigan is a red state again. We need a 50 state strategy and an 83 county strategy.

    • Son_of_the_South June 15, 2017 at 3:05 pm

      Apparently Scalise just had the third surgery.


      24, R, TN-09
      Classical liberals are a minority. Fusionism is the answer.

      • cer June 15, 2017 at 3:15 pm

        That man has got one hell of a road a head of him.


        Conservative first, Republican second!

      • edtorres04 June 15, 2017 at 4:06 pm

        Is there anything regarding nerve damage? I haven’t seen any reports of that.

  • cer June 15, 2017 at 3:06 pm

    Disturbing: “Cops going mailbox to mailbox in Karen Handel’s neighborhood after “suspicious package” found near her home.”

    https://twitter.com/MPetchenikWSB/status/875427110457937924


    Conservative first, Republican second!

    • kewgardens June 15, 2017 at 3:32 pm

      Maybe this motivates Republicans? But if 15% of GA-06 Republicans defect to Ossoff, I have a hard time seeing Handel pull this race out.

      • cer June 15, 2017 at 3:42 pm

        I don’t see 15% of GOP voters defecting to him.


        Conservative first, Republican second!

    • Mayor Perk June 15, 2017 at 4:13 pm

      This is very serious and is more than UPS delivering a package to the wrong address.

      Police say the FBI has joined the investigation and at least five homes in the neighborhood have received an envelope with a “white powdery substance” in it.

      http://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/north-fulton-county/breaking-suspicious-package-shuts-down-street-where-karen-handel-lives/533890723

      This has the potential of changing the dynamics of the race significantly over the next 5 days. She’s the target of a terrorist attack.


      30. OH-12. Establishment Republican.

      • Mayor Perk June 15, 2017 at 4:50 pm

        Leftist Twitterworld doesn’t believe it. Handel camp made it up.

        https://twitter.com/alexis_levinson/status/875444720037756928/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.politics1.com%2F


        30. OH-12. Establishment Republican.

        • Upstater22 June 15, 2017 at 4:56 pm

          What is that saying Lenin supposedly said? Accuse your opponents of the tactics you are guilty of using (or something like that). In an effort to prove that the US is a racist, bigoted country (which it isnt), leftists have committed dozens of hoax crimes over the past year. They are used to employing this tactic so of course they will accuse republicans of doing it.


          Conservative, because facts are more important than feelings

          • cer June 15, 2017 at 5:03 pm

            Some on the left are just gone…. there are no words anymore.

            Granted our side has our fair share of crazies, but the left takes the cake.


            Conservative first, Republican second!

            • TheWizardOf144 June 15, 2017 at 8:34 pm

              I’m really glad I donated to her yesterday.

        • Manhatlibertarian June 15, 2017 at 6:39 pm

          Could someone who is somewhat unbalanced who supports Handel have done this to get sympathy for her? Sure it is a possibility but to accuse Handel of staging this incident herself is pretty far out. It is more likely a mentally unbalanced opponent on the left did this to get the personal satisfaction of intimidating her because she is the “enemy”. This person is not even thinking of the effect on the election but just wants to strike at her because the person sees her as an “oppressor”. By the way I think this incident will have no effect on the special election.

    • MosheM June 15, 2017 at 4:26 pm

      I’m Frank Underwood and I approve this message….

      lol


      28, M, R, NY-10

  • rdelbov June 15, 2017 at 5:46 pm

    Low turnout in HD95–at least as far as election day voting—not sure about early voting

  • rdelbov June 15, 2017 at 5:59 pm

    I don’t get Nate Cohn. Nearly 120K have voted and they are running out of “regular voters”

    https://twitter.com/Nate_Cohn/status/875167969105629184/photo/1

    Yet 326K voted in GA6 in 2016 while 210K voted in GA6 in 2014. I note 193K voted in the 1st round of 2017. There seems to be a lot of regular voters still out there? Unless there is some sort of absolute definition of what a regular voter is.

    I think we are looking at topping 2014 numbers with or without regular voters?

    • Manhatlibertarian June 15, 2017 at 6:56 pm

      Yeah I am also puzzled by what Cohn means by running out of “regular voters” in Ga6. Possibly he is referring to the amount of absentee ballots left that haven’t been returned yet but it is not clear and that is only a limited subset of ballots. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if turnout hits 2014 levels unless one assumes there is a lot of election day vote cannibalization going on here.

      • rdelbov June 15, 2017 at 7:18 pm

        Clearly some voters historically vote more “regular” then others. There are the Presidential only voters. Of course turn 18 and others die while others mature from being a Presidential only voter to a more “regular” voter. So perhaps Cohn has an idea that some 150K voters in GA6 are regular voters who vote in just about every major election. So they 90% of the time? Maybe? I have heard others use the tier 1-tier 2-tier3 for being everything-most of the time-Presidential only. The problem with this analysis is that the electorate is in flux. 25% of the voters who cast ballots in GA6 in 2012 have either died or moved out of the district. I might add new “regular” voters could have moved into the district to replace others.

        So Cohn’s idea about what “regular” means is like jumping out a plane at 20K-Don’t think you are going to hit a small target!!

  • Left Coast Libertarian June 15, 2017 at 6:07 pm

    I’m sure at least one of you can help me. As you know my documentary is finished and will be playing at film festivals starting in September. From 2010-2012 I interviewed a number of congressmen for the film. I want to contact a few who are in it prominently to let them know. Getting in touch with congressmen used to be easy. I called their office and spoke with the communications director. Now, I get an automated message when I call that says that if you’re from the district leave a message. If you’re not, don’t.

    How can I get in touch with them?

  • VastBlightKingConspiracy June 15, 2017 at 6:08 pm

    Tom Edsall, who I actually do really like reading, is reporting on some interesting post-mortem studies the Democrats have been doing.

    A few have found that the fastest growing, most up-for-grabs group of workers in America aren’t “knowledge-class professionals” like the respective political classes won’t shut up about. But rather low-wage workers in the service economy who both political parties aren’t reaching out very well to (they split evenly despite being majority women and disproportionately minority).

    https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/06/15/opinion/can-the-democratic-party-find-new-voters.html

    Surely the Republican Party will convince all these voters to support them by doubling down on a platform of slashing their wages and healthcare so we can fight more foreign wars and their CEO that makes 450x as much as they do can get a small cut in his tax rate!


    I am not a member of any organized political party. I am a Republican.

  • cer June 15, 2017 at 6:14 pm

    Rep. Steve Scalise is now out of surgery again and is still in critical condition.

    https://twitter.com/jparkABC/status/875474417006071810


    Conservative first, Republican second!

  • Greyhound June 15, 2017 at 6:22 pm

    Pew Poll on the EU:
    http://www.pewglobal.org/2017/06/15/most-europeans-judge-brexit-as-bad-for-eu-and-uk/
    Summary–Most Europeans support staying in the EU, but want referendums on the idea regardless. They also almost uniformly want to see power devolved from the EU back to the governments of the member states on Trade & Immigration.


    R, 26, CA-18. Anti-Anti-Trump

    • VastBlightKingConspiracy June 15, 2017 at 6:24 pm

      I think those have always been the statistics. The problem is that the EU would never devolve trade or immigration policy because it goes against their sacrosanct goal of “ever-closer union”.


      I am not a member of any organized political party. I am a Republican.

      • Greyhound June 15, 2017 at 6:34 pm

        Well, yes. Though it’ll be worth watching what a UK-less EU will do, as IIRC the UK mostly vetoed the really stupid stuff the Federalists were pushing for.


        R, 26, CA-18. Anti-Anti-Trump

        • Son_of_the_South June 15, 2017 at 6:37 pm

          This is the number one reason that I think the U.K. May collapse. The Brits were holding back the crazy shit. The floodgates may now open.


          24, R, TN-09
          Classical liberals are a minority. Fusionism is the answer.

          • roguemapper June 15, 2017 at 6:39 pm

            I assume you mean the EU may collapse?


            Dem NC-11

            • Greyhound June 15, 2017 at 7:40 pm

              Yeah . . .the bright side for the British Right this election was that the SNP made an even bigger fool of themselves than May did. The SNP still holds the most seats in Scotland of course, but they only got like 38% of the vote vs 2015’s 50%, and support for a 2nd referendum has dropped considerably even among people who support Scottish Independence! Scotland’s 13 Tory MPs also help introduce a sense of political normality in the nation again, as we’re no longer dealing with the Cameron days where the Majority Tory Government holds exactly one seat in the least Scottish part of Scotland.

              I can’t say Scottish Independence is dead while the SNP is still technically the largest party in Scotland, but the Unionists have to be happy with the election result.


              R, 26, CA-18. Anti-Anti-Trump

            • Son_of_the_South June 15, 2017 at 7:52 pm

              Yes, I meant the EU. Damn autocorrect


              24, R, TN-09
              Classical liberals are a minority. Fusionism is the answer.

    • roguemapper June 15, 2017 at 6:27 pm

      It amuses me how the French are relatively fine with being rid of the British.


      Dem NC-11

      • cer June 15, 2017 at 6:48 pm

        I bet the feeling is quite mutual, and I’m with the UK in regards to the EU.


        Conservative first, Republican second!

      • Republican Michigander June 15, 2017 at 6:48 pm

        “””It amuses me how the French are relatively fine with being rid of the British.”””

        LOL. Old rivalries die hard.


        MI-08 - Michigan is a red state again. We need a 50 state strategy and an 83 county strategy.

        • Manhatlibertarian June 15, 2017 at 6:59 pm

          It’s like Joan of Arc was only just yesterday.

  • Mike1965 June 15, 2017 at 6:42 pm

    MN Gov: State Rep. Paul Thissen, a former House speaker who made a run for governor seven years ago, announced Thursday he will seek the state’s highest office again.

    Thissen is a Minneapolis liberal, he will join the crowded left wing of the DFL field.


    Corker 2020

    • Son_of_the_South June 15, 2017 at 7:54 pm

      Wow. Things seem to be lining up for walk to get the endorsement. Is a majority of convention-goers required, or can Walz win with a plurality?


      24, R, TN-09
      Classical liberals are a minority. Fusionism is the answer.

      • Mike1965 June 15, 2017 at 8:10 pm

        60% required.

        Most often when there is a multi round contested convention those trailing far behind or failing to meet increasing thresholds drop out as the rounds go by. My guess Walz will hold early lead but in the end he will be 1 on 1 with a Twin Cities area Democrat. Key is who all goes to the primary.


        Corker 2020

        • Son_of_the_South June 15, 2017 at 8:12 pm

          Thanks


          24, R, TN-09
          Classical liberals are a minority. Fusionism is the answer.

  • Republican Michigander June 15, 2017 at 6:57 pm

    Somewhat off topic – I’ve made a few comments in the past about what constitutes “Anglo” as a lot of people overlap “Anglo” with “Gringos”.

    Well, I’m doing family tree research and ancestry DNA. I found out I lied when I was I wasn’t at least part Anglo. There isn’t much, but it’s there. (7% British, most of it English as opposed to Scottish). What I thought was Scots-Irish or Scottish originally (Moore – a surname that could be Irish, Scots, or English) happened to be mostly Norman English. It’s also quite interesting and different going back to 1500s when I’m used to going back to late 1700s/early 1800s to farming communities in Ireland.

    I will however stand by my earlier comments about American Irish not being Anglo (Celtic). 🙂


    MI-08 - Michigan is a red state again. We need a 50 state strategy and an 83 county strategy.

    • Manhatlibertarian June 15, 2017 at 7:15 pm

      Well I noticed yesterday that Texas Congressman Joe Barton, who was on scene during the shooting rampage, referred to the shooter as an “Anglo”. In the Southwest US it is a term used to designate a non-Hispanic white, so you could be Jewish, Irish, Polish etc. but you would still be an “Anglo”. It is not a term that would be used here in the Northeast that way or most of the rest of the country I think.

      It is kind of like the Amish, who speak a Germanic dialect among themselves, refer to their neighbors as the “English”. It is not a reference to ethnicity but to the fact that the non Amish neighbors use English as their primary language. So again you could be Jewish, Irish, Polish etc but if you are non Amish and your primary language is English, then you are the “English”.

    • prsteve11 June 16, 2017 at 12:28 am

      I’m a big ancestry buff (and yes I have British too!) but I’m skeptical of the whole DNA testing thing. Maybe I’ll try it some day but I’m in no hurry to.


      SC-03, Conservative Republican

      • Republican Michigander June 16, 2017 at 9:13 am

        It was pretty good in my case. Nothing is “exact” with geography, and while we inherit 50% DNA from each parent, it’s not the same 50% geographically. Brothers could vary in how Irish they are for example. Without the people in my tree, 3 of my mom’s cousins were a DNA hit. My grandfather’s cousin (who has my last name) was as well. Ancestry listed them as likely 1st-2nd cousins. A few other distant relative hits had tree matchups to common ancestors. I found two distant relatives and where they fit on the tree.

        The Irish numbers were about what I’d expect since I’m almost 3/4 Irish.

        One drawback is some of the geography. It doesn’t differentiate all that well. Part of that was migration patterns, but “Europe West” and “Europe East” cover a wide area. Luckily, I already knew where my “15% Europe East” ancestry was (Bohemian Czech), but that covers a large area. Europe West covers basically from France to Germany. I think the others are Great Britain (England and Scotland), Iberian, Italy/Greece, Scandinavian, and Russian. I’m not sure if the Balkans are their own area or not. For blacks, it does differentiate their region.

        I only recommend the ancestry DNA testing if there’s a family tree there as well.


        MI-08 - Michigan is a red state again. We need a 50 state strategy and an 83 county strategy.

      • californianintexas June 16, 2017 at 6:21 pm

        I am into DNA testing, not only because of my biology degree, but also because my mom’s longtime interest is genealogy and family history is big among Mormons. It was through my mom’s family genealogy studies that I found out that part of my ancestry dates back to the American Revolution. My ancestry includes Scot-Irish, Russian, and Armenian. I might have a trace of Cherokee too. I’d love to do DNA testing to find out.

        Being from Brazil, my husband’s ancestry includes Portuguese (obviously), Italian, African (possibly from Angola; his maternal grandfather looked a lot like former president Obama), and possibly some indigenous ancestry as well.


        34, Female, Libertarian, UT-02 (hometown CA-31), theelectionsgeek.com

        • Jon June 16, 2017 at 8:50 pm

          For family histories of having exactly one American Indian princess ancestor from the 1700s, the DNA test can’t really be used to falsify the story. (If slightly less than average DNA passes the first couple generations by now there might not be enough unique DNA to detect.)

          What one of my friends told me when he looked up my tree was that contrary to my belief of being roughly equally mixed between English & German is that Mom’s family is also almost entirely English with virtually no German in it at all (only evidence being the last name itself) ; every direct female ancestor found so far in that branch had an English maiden last name.
          (I do have some Scots-Irish, but far more English. I have a trace of American Indian from the 19th century; confirmed from the genealogy tree but it’s at the same time also a dead end.)


          45, M, MO-02

      • Jon June 16, 2017 at 8:28 pm

        From what I’ve seen; if Ancestry’s DNA test says you’re 8% something you likely have some ancestry there.

        It’s the 2% (and less) that can’t really be used to say your ancestors lived in that region. (That appears small enough that when you count back number of generations to get a reasonably large number that you find out there was a major migration wave into that region between then and now.)


        45, M, MO-02

  • segmentation_fault June 15, 2017 at 7:40 pm

    A map of D vs. R votes for the Virginia primary. Credit: genericusername at DKE
    http://i.imgur.com/nzkOmit.png


    core dumped

    • Son_of_the_South June 15, 2017 at 7:55 pm

      That’s about what I’d expect. given that that the dam primary was thought to be the closer one right up until the end.


      24, R, TN-09
      Classical liberals are a minority. Fusionism is the answer.

      • Son_of_the_South June 15, 2017 at 8:06 pm

        *Dem


        24, R, TN-09
        Classical liberals are a minority. Fusionism is the answer.

  • MosheM June 15, 2017 at 8:05 pm

    Polls closed in Tennessee


    28, M, R, NY-10

  • Manhatlibertarian June 15, 2017 at 8:10 pm

    Even More Thursday NY tidbits:

    Gov Cuomo has nominated Judge Paul Feinman to fill the vacancy on the NY Court of Appeals left by the mysterious death of Justice Sheila Abdus-Salaam. It is subject to confirmation by the State Senate, which is likely. If confirmed Feinman would be the first openly LGBT person to sit on NY’s highest court (In NY the Supreme Court is the lowest level court for whatever reason).

    Cuomo has swung to the right on charter schools, backing State Senate Republicans, who in the waning days of the 2017 session want to link an extension of Mayor deBlasio’s direct control of NYC schools to an expansion in the amount of charter schools. Cuomo favors a 3 year extension of deBlasio’s direct school control along with more charter schools. So far Dem Assembly Speaker Heastie has opposed this linkage, but now Cuomo has gotten into the act.

    The FBI has executed search warrants at 3 locations in Buffalo linked to political operator Maurice Garner and his “Grassroots” political organization. He has been a big supporter of Dem Buffalo Mayor Byron Brown, who is running for re-election this year. The FBI will not confirm the purpose of the investigation (what they are not leaking all over the place? How strange!)

    If you are a big Trumpite, now you have a chance to rent his early boyhood home in Jamaica Estates, Queens. According to the new owners, you can tread where little Trump once tread for $3500 to $4000 a month.

    http://www.nystateofpolitics.com/

    • w920us June 15, 2017 at 8:51 pm

      Yeah I’ve always wondered why NY was the oddball state when it came to naming its highest court something other than the Supeme Court.


      R, South Philly, 47, Gay, WFU Alum
      #TrumpVoter #NeverHillary

      • VastBlightKingConspiracy June 15, 2017 at 9:05 pm

        Hey, they also call their highest court the Court of Appeal in Maryland and West Virginia! New York actually has a pretty normal judicial system.

        Some systems are actually quite odd. North Carolina is uh…interesting.


        I am not a member of any organized political party. I am a Republican.

  • kewgardens June 15, 2017 at 8:37 pm

    Corbyn: Seize the homes of the rich and give them to the homeless!!
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/15/jeremy-corbyn-empty-homes-owned-rich-should-requisitioned-grenfell/

    This is the guy who came within a couple of percent of becoming the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom.
    The return of the Bolsheviks.

    • MosheM June 15, 2017 at 8:44 pm

      Well, they are to blame. They flipped a constituency to Labour.


      28, M, R, NY-10

    • roguemapper June 15, 2017 at 8:44 pm

      Hmmm… I wonder if homeless political refugees would get priority? I’d be willing to live on the streets of Kensington for a while!


      Dem NC-11

    • Boehnerwasright June 15, 2017 at 9:05 pm

      Do most people that post these type of articles that have little to do with elections and often are just ”left-bashing” read the whole article or just post them after reading the headlines?
      There is a big difference between a call for seizing the home of rich people who are actually living in them or to call for forcing unused homes to be used to house people that are homeless after a big fire like this.

      You can debate about if that is necessary but that is nowhere near Communism..

      • fzw June 15, 2017 at 9:11 pm

        I find it amusing that the people who accuse the other side of hysterics are usually making hysterical posts when calling out the hysteria


        Currently MO-5. From MO-3.
        R-leaning Indy.

        • Boehnerwasright June 15, 2017 at 9:31 pm

          I mostly try to ignore this, but the amount of cultural war/left bashing type staff seems to have grown over the last month. I have no problem with critzing the left and there is really a lot to critize.
          But few of these posts are well done, thoughtprovoking or even properly sourced. Often these posts are simply misleading, statements taken out of context or minor incidents blown way out of proportion. The whole Kathy Griffins affair is the best recent example, so many posts for a D-level ”comedian” and people trying to tie the whole left to Griffins. I feel we would be all better off, if the whole topic was never brought up on an election site.

          • roguemapper June 15, 2017 at 9:44 pm

            My personal view is that if this is what some on the right need to justify their political alignment then, hey, whatever! But as a Democrat I find it far from persuasive. I simply find it annoying and antagonizing. Every such posting reaffirms to me why I would never vote for the Donald or the alt-right. I’ll readily concede that the hyperbolic SJW stuff does sway some number of swing voters toward the GOP but that type of voter is very unlikely to frequent a site like RRH in my opinion. Even if they did that wouldn’t make such postings any more compliant with the RRH Terms of Use.


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          • Son_of_the_South June 15, 2017 at 10:07 pm

            We try to let the comments be self-regulating outside of clear cases. Otherwise it’s like playing whack-a-mole (which we occasionally have to play with assholes who are sock-puppeting anyway).


            24, R, TN-09
            Classical liberals are a minority. Fusionism is the answer.

            • shamlet June 15, 2017 at 10:18 pm

              Yeah. It’s worth repeating that pretty much all of us absolutely hate moderating comments. I’m pretty sure I speak for all the rest of the team when I say it’s by far my least favorite task when it comes to running the site. Nothing we do ever leaves everyone happy and the amount of effort needed to police everything perfectly is far beyond what the nine of us can provide. So we kinda have to make examples by calling out the worst posts and rely on self-policing for the rest.


              R, MD-7. Process is more important than outcome.

              • cer June 15, 2017 at 11:19 pm

                I actually think you moderators do a good job around here. You put up with a decent amount of digression in here, and show a lot of patience.

                I remember when I moderated a RED SOX site, and laying down the law a few times myself, and it’s not fun.


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                • roguemapper June 15, 2017 at 11:22 pm

                  I think it’d be fun to instaban Yankees! 😛


                  Dem NC-11

                  • BostonPatriot June 15, 2017 at 11:34 pm

                    Yankees suck.

                    See, moderating comments can be kinda fun!

                    • Son_of_the_South June 15, 2017 at 11:45 pm

                      You’re right, y’all do suck 🙂


                      24, R, TN-09
                      Classical liberals are a minority. Fusionism is the answer.

                  • Son_of_the_South June 15, 2017 at 11:41 pm

                    Do you run a Confederate website? I’d like to ban the Yankees if I could. They outright ruined NoVa 🙂


                    24, R, TN-09
                    Classical liberals are a minority. Fusionism is the answer.

                    • cer June 16, 2017 at 12:14 am

                      Our emphasis were the Red Sox, but we also had sections to post about all other pro Boston area teams.

                      After the game we even chatted about politics. Our head honcho was from Nebraska, and lets just say I got a crash course in braska politics. 🙂


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                    • Son_of_the_South June 16, 2017 at 12:18 am

                      @CER
                      Lol, I was talking to Roguemapper. Good to know, though. Moderating a bunch of Bostonians must have been quite a ride.


                      24, R, TN-09
                      Classical liberals are a minority. Fusionism is the answer.

                    • cer June 16, 2017 at 9:23 am

                      SOTS, I know that, I was just going on about some fun times.


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      • Manhatlibertarian June 15, 2017 at 9:37 pm

        Well but in the US we have eminent domain where if the government seizes a property for public purposes they have to pay a just compensation for the property ; I don’t hear anything like that from Comrade Corbyn in the article just that he may “requisition” vacant properties. Of course it sounds good to some since we have sympathy for those who lost their apartments in the fire. But if you owned a vacation property would you be OK with the government taking it without compensation because of some local disaster to house people because you are not in it at the time of the disaster? I find it hard to believe that the government can’t find them suitable nearby apartments without having to go to this extreme; we are not talking about thousands of people being homeless. This is just an opportunity for Corbyn to engage in class warfare. If you are OK with what Corbyn proposes then you belong in the far left wing of the Democratic Party.

    • krazen1211 June 15, 2017 at 9:34 pm

      Kensington went Labour, right?

      Scarsdale and Glencoe went Dem long ago….so I suspect this is like Highland park dallas.

      • jncca June 15, 2017 at 10:05 pm

        It’s like the Upper East Side. The UK never had a 1992-style realignment of the wealthy towards the left.

        Kensington is the wealthiest constituency in the UK and is urban, not suburban.


        24, CA-6. Part Obama, Part May, Part Christian Democrat.

        • Son_of_the_South June 15, 2017 at 10:09 pm

          Well, they did’t have one until maybe two weeks ago.


          24, R, TN-09
          Classical liberals are a minority. Fusionism is the answer.

        • VastBlightKingConspiracy June 15, 2017 at 10:12 pm

          Well, are the rich in Kensington actually voting Labour? Or are they just voting 65-35 Tory instead of 90-10, while the poor vote 90-10 Labour.


          I am not a member of any organized political party. I am a Republican.

          • Greyhound June 15, 2017 at 10:21 pm

            Given the demographic breakdowns of the vote showing that the parties were roughly equal across all income segments, I think its former, with the Suburban rich staying True Blue. IIRC this is the part of London that costs 50,000/yr to live in, so I doubt there are many poor people living there.


            R, 26, CA-18. Anti-Anti-Trump

            • VastBlightKingConspiracy June 15, 2017 at 10:51 pm

              That’s pretty devastating then. Even Republicans don’t do THAT badly among most rich people in New York City. And they’re not even running against Jeremy Corbyn! And imagine if we had a “traditional” Republican (with modest Trumpian tendencies) running against Jeremy Corbyn (think someone like Tom Marino). It’d be a landslide in that demographic.

              In fact, I suspect Republicans actually win rich people or come pretty close in New York City (at least outside of Manhattan). I think Republicans only badly lose among the rich in San Francisco and Washington D.C.

              It’s just that in almost all major cities, the urban poor wildly outnumber the urban rich.


              I am not a member of any organized political party. I am a Republican.

              • Son_of_the_South June 15, 2017 at 11:08 pm

                Here in DC it’s quite ridiculous. Aggregating the richest parts of the city (I’m probably the poorest non-homeless in my precinct lol), it’s probably no better than 75-25 Romney (and much worse for Trump, obviously). I think your’e underestimating how liberal the rich in New York are, though. They’re definitely closer to the national norm in L.A., but the UES has moved sharply left even since 2000.


                24, R, TN-09
                Classical liberals are a minority. Fusionism is the answer.

                • VastBlightKingConspiracy June 15, 2017 at 11:22 pm

                  Oh yeah, I totally agree. Which is why I figured possibly excluding Manhattan. But there are also a lot of rich people in the other three boroughs (since SI doesn’t really count). I suspect they tilt heavily Republican.

                  San Francisco is possibly even more ridiculous than DC, because there’s actually a lot of immigrant-heavy (both Asian and Eastern European) sorta-surburban areas in the western side of the city that have a solid minority of Republicans (like 20-30%). If cut that out, we’re suddenly looking at a city that’s probably more left-wing than Washington DC. I wouldn’t be surprised if the most conservative part of the city left would be the Tenderloin.

                  As for LA, I think Beverly Hills tilted narrowly Clinton, but not by much. And not everyone there is rich. Santa Monica and WeHo of course, are filled with rich liberals.


                  I am not a member of any organized political party. I am a Republican.

            • VastBlightKingConspiracy June 15, 2017 at 10:57 pm

              Minor mistake, I was thinking of Lou Barletta, not Tom Marino. But the rest of the point stands.


              I am not a member of any organized political party. I am a Republican.

              • BostonPatriot June 15, 2017 at 11:34 pm

                The uber-rich are quite interesting as they are more likely to support Democrats than the tier below them. One thought I’ve had on that is that once post-tax income is high enough marginal tax rates don’t matter as much–when money is abundant people begin to vote more for reasons other than money.

                The upper middle-class, who benefit most from marginal tax cuts for the wealthy, are the backbone of the GOP and it appears the Republicans win the white UMC in each of the four outer boroughs, quite handily in some places. Manhattan doesn’t have a typical UMC, as the type of people who live on the Upper West Side and in the Village tend to reject everything about the typical conservative upper-middle class lifestyle (no offense, izengabe)!

                • VastBlightKingConspiracy June 16, 2017 at 12:18 am

                  I’d agree, though I’m not sure what do we mean by uber-rich here. IIRC, someone here (I think it was indocon) showed a pretty cool graph of voting preferences of whites and Republican voting percentage pretty much went straight up with income until they hit the 99th percentile, at which point they crashed like a rock.

                  99th percentile is a household income of around $350,000 a year, which is of course quite comfortably rich, but it’s not the same as riding a private jet around the world attending Davos and Bilderburg conventions. One could imagine a small plumbing business owner husband and a doctor wife combining to earn about that. Or two large law firm first-year associates.

                  The uber-rich are very liberal (the Mark Zuckerbergs and almost every private jet flying CEO in America), but so are the typical rich (your 350k income people!). And that’s also an interesting phenomenon!

                  Arguably, a lot of them are probably hilariously uninformed about economics. I seriously once had someone tell me that they thought the average household income in America was over $150k, possibly $200k, so they weren’t actually upper-middle-class.


                  I am not a member of any organized political party. I am a Republican.

        • krazen1211 June 15, 2017 at 10:32 pm

          Hmm, I’ve heard that theory before, and I guess it kind of fits Bill Green in Congress in the pre 1992 world.

          When was the last time UES voted Republican for President? 1984? 1972? UES was a big donor location for Bush in 2004 (Zip code 10021), but I don’t think he would have won the area as a whole.

  • segmentation_fault June 15, 2017 at 10:27 pm

    In TN-HD-95 the Republican won 62-35, but Romney won it 76-23.


    core dumped

    • Son_of_the_South June 15, 2017 at 10:35 pm

      The #Resistance is #Woke in a low-turnout special. No surprise there.


      24, R, TN-09
      Classical liberals are a minority. Fusionism is the answer.

      • cer June 15, 2017 at 11:22 pm

        The Republican still won easily, and that is what counts.


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    • prsteve11 June 16, 2017 at 12:31 am

      I’m always cautious about comparing a presidential result to an open seat.


      SC-03, Conservative Republican

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