Political Roundup for December 7th, 2017

Deviants

MN-Sen: After allegations #7 and #8 of unwanted groping dropped yesterday, Sen. Al Franken announced that he will have a press conference today where he is expected to resign (although his office was waffling on Twitter last night). This Star Tribune article cites some unnamed sources pointing to Lt. Gov. Tina Flint Smith as a caretaker appointment until the November 2018 special election. Read our full write-up from last night in the link. Also, our friend Miles Coleman has some neat Minnesota maps in honor of the likely resignation, including a precinct map of Frankenś first 2008 Minnesota Senate race, a map of AG Lori Swansonś strong reelection win in 2014, and a comparison of same-sex marriage vote in 2012 with Trumpś 2016 statewide performance.

AL-Sen: More evidence of Republican US Senate nominee Roy Moore dating way-too-younger women. He also may have dated his wife while she was still married, which is not a huge deal (she had just separated with her husband) but does point to plenty of hypocrisy from the holier-than-thou Moore. At this point it is hard to see how new allegations hurt Moore particularly without a new wave of media coverage, as voters know the basic story and have to decide if they deny the evidence or accept it and vote accordingly.

MI-13: The elder Rep. Conyers endorsed his son, John Conyers III, for his seat as he resigned. However, the New York Times yesterday revealed that the younger Conyers was arrested just this last February for stabbing his girlfriend. With this, the elder Conyers’ sexual harassment (see this latest creepy bit), and Monica Conyers´ ethics problems, this family has had a rough track record the last few years.

TX-27: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know Farenthold said he will repay the settlement money taxpayers had to foot to settle his sexual harassment lawsuit. But this article on the victim, his former communications director, and her resulting blacklisting after going public with Farentholdś behavior is pretty brutal. How does Barton get forced out by local Republicans but Farenthold gets to keep his seat?

NV-4: More details of unwanted advances on a campaign staffer from freshman Rep. Ruben Kihuen (D).

MA-Leg: State Senate President Stan Rosenberg (D) is taking a leave of absence from his leadership position after a Boston Globe investigation turned up four instances of sexual assault or harassment involving his husband. Three different senators have openly declared their interest in Rosenbergś job, ¨should it become open.¨ These leadership races normally develop behind closed doors, but then again, so do sexual harassment scandals. Normal procedure has been kind of thrown out the window on Beacon Hill.

Normal Senate

TN-Sen: A big get for Democrats looking to recruit for a likely wave election. Former Governor Phil Bredesen began calling donors yesterday to tell them he will in fact run in the open US Senate race. Bredesen crushed his last gubernatorial race, which incidentally is the last time Tennessee has had a competitive US Senate race. Can a strong, relatively moderate candidate separate himself in a state like Tennessee nowadays? Weĺl find out.

Normal Governor

KS-Gov: 2014 US Senate candidate Greg Orman (I) has set up an exploratory bid for Governor, making the road harder for whatever Democrat emerges out of their own primary of B-listers (when Orman ran in 2014, it was as the de facto Democratic nominee; he came up short with 43% of the vote).

TX-Gov: Dallas County Sheriff Lupe Valdez (D) announced a gubernatorial campaign yesterday. This sets up an ideological primary between her (a progressive, lesbian, and Hispanic sheriff in a county that has turned blue) and Mark White, the son of former Gov. Andrew White who is fine with being called a moderate Republican or a conservative Democrat. This announcement also opens her seat up.

Normal House

MI-9: Two Democratic candidates announced yesterday for this open seat. The first was Andy Levin, who works in the energy industry but whose main claim for office is being a member of the heir force as the son of outgoing incumbent Rep. Sander Levin (D). The second candidate is State Sen. Steve Bieda.

RIP: Former Rep. John Anderson (R-IL), who ran as a liberal independent for President against Reagan and Carter in 1980, died Sunday at 95. He took almost 7% of the vote in that bid after polling much higher earlier in the campaign.

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185 Comments

  • Ryan_in_SEPA December 7, 2017 at 8:19 am

    Is Franken going to pull a Larry Craig? Hopefully we will not get any wide stances or grabbing at this news conference.


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  • sentinelrules December 7, 2017 at 8:44 am

    AL Senate Poll: Done by Breitbart….pretty much Moore’s Super PAC poll

    THREE NIGHT #ALSEN TRACKING (12/4 – 12/6): N=368
    Moore 46.9, Jones 43.7 as Jones unites Dems, Libs and Blacks. 68% of undecideds are conservatives.

    https://www.facebook.com/rickshaftan/posts/10212325859514463

    • Ryan_in_SEPA December 7, 2017 at 8:56 am

      I guess that most of the undecided stay home at Moore wins by a mid single digit margin.


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      • Republican Michigander December 7, 2017 at 9:56 am

        “”I guess that most of the undecided stay home at Moore wins by a mid single digit margin.””

        That’s why I think Jones wins. I would be writing in Busby or showing up to vote a blank ballot if I lived there.


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        • Indy1975a December 7, 2017 at 11:39 am

          Jones has no path to break 45%. I would write in Busby too, but I doubt there are anywhere near 10+% of the electorate to write-in Busby that would be needed for a Jones win.


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          • andyroo312 December 7, 2017 at 11:42 am

            Jones has climbed as high as 51 percent in public polling…which I suspect is basically his absolute ceiling. If turnout proves ideal and Busby earns a handful of votes, he could well triumph by 3-5%. (Though I’m still predicting the child molester.)


            MA-7

            • Indy1975a December 7, 2017 at 11:44 am

              Turnout models that would get Jones 51% are highly unrealistic and unlikely.


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          • VastBlightKingConspiracy December 7, 2017 at 11:42 am

            I mean, there are other ways to not vote. By staying home or by leaving the ballot blank.


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    • prsteve11 December 7, 2017 at 10:29 am

      They say this poll pegs blacks as 27% of the electorate and also interviews cell phones so it doesn’t look so far off.


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  • Mayor Perk December 7, 2017 at 9:21 am

    OH Supreme Court/ OH-Gov: Ohio Supreme Court Justice Bill “50 chicks” O’Neill (D) is resigning his seat tomorrow. If he resigns, it seems he would be intent on running for governor despite Cordray’s offical entry into the race this week. Previously, O’Neill said he would not run if Cordray did. O’Neill is currently the only statewide elected Democrat in state office.

    http://www.cleveland.com/open/index.ssf/2017/12/bill_oneill_plans_to_resign_fr.html#incart_m-rpt-1


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    • davybaby December 7, 2017 at 11:54 am

      To defend thee indefensible, O’Neill is 70 years old. Let’s say he has been sexually active since he was of college age. If he has spent any significant amount of time as a single person, 50 may not be an unreasonable number.

      What makes this creepy, though, is the juvenile, almost bragging tone of his comments. He has turned himself into a laughing stock.

      • VastBlightKingConspiracy December 7, 2017 at 11:57 am

        What? Men often brag about their sexual experience? Well I never


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  • sentinelrules December 7, 2017 at 9:23 am

    Franken speaking at 11:45am ET….in the Senate, not in Minnesota

    https://twitter.com/redsteeze/status/938775163503628290

    • Indy1975a December 7, 2017 at 11:41 am

      I hope he doesn’t resign. I want to see Al Franken physically expelled from the Senate, forcibly taken out by the capitol police…


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      • Greyhound December 7, 2017 at 11:45 am

        Honestly, a double-expulsion of Franken and Moore would probably be the best outcome for the GOP, as its probably the only way they can justify expelling Moore to the GOP base without making it come across as McConnell just removing a GOP Senator he doesn’t like.


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        • Indy1975a December 7, 2017 at 11:48 am

          This is very true, which is why I think the D leadership wants Franken out NOW.


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  • HoneyBee December 7, 2017 at 9:42 am

    Hopefully he doesn’t resign, so he can be expelled in disgrace

    Then we can expel that pedophile Moore right after


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    • Indy1975a December 7, 2017 at 11:42 am

      That’s part of the reason I don’t want Franken to resign. Expelling Franken may stiffen McConnell’s spine regarding Moore.


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    • shamlet December 7, 2017 at 10:00 am

      Lively runs basically every cycle. I don’t think he’s ever cracked 1%.


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    • Indy1975a December 7, 2017 at 11:49 am

      I would bet on Steve Bannon supporting him. That will get him 10-15% in the primary.


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      • Greyhound December 7, 2017 at 11:51 am

        And also probably help Baker in the GE. Nothing sells a Republican better to the Massachusetts electorate than “This is a guy Steven Bannon wants gone”.


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      • BostonPatriot December 7, 2017 at 12:04 pm

        He needs to get 15% of the vote at the state GOP convention to force a primary. About a third of the delegates to the convention will be superdelegates appointed by the state party leadership, which Baker controls. The rest of the delegates are elected by city and town Republican committees. While it’s certain that there will be some anti-Baker delegates it will be extremely hard for Bannon to run any organized campaign unless he’s willing to spend several months on the ground and making phone calls to the local committees.

        • andyroo312 December 7, 2017 at 12:13 pm

          Indeed, there’s virtually zero chance Lively resonates whatsoever at the state convention. In a primary vs. Baker (which he won’t even get to), he’d probably struggle to even muster double-digits.


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  • Republican Michigander December 7, 2017 at 10:06 am

    With all the heir force stuff (Conyers, Levin), I always judge related candidates by one major standard here. If the candidate’s last name was different, would the candidate be taken seriously. Sometimes the answer is yes. Bill Rogers has his own record. Sometimes the answer is no way, like Andy Levin.

    I feel a little bad for John Conyers III. From what it sounds, he was basically just told to run from dad and didn’t really have interest in the spot. His great nephew is the political Conyers who didn’t go to jail.


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    • Izengabe December 7, 2017 at 12:10 pm

      If Levin or a Conyers wins next year 4 out 5 Democrat members of the Michigan Congressional delegation will be members of the heir force.


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      • Republican Michigander December 7, 2017 at 2:00 pm

        There’s an argument that could be made for Kildee (even thought I think he’s worthless) as Kildee was by all accounts a good treasurer in Genesee County. It’s a countywide seat representing 425,000 people. If he was a Dan Jones, he could have possibly won. Debbie Dingell was a bigwig in the DNC for years although that was certainly planned to be an heir force seat by the establishment there. Chris Dingell was supposed to be the guy, but got a judgeship instead. He was probably happy where he was.


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        • davybaby December 7, 2017 at 8:10 pm

          John Dingell, Sr. was elected in 1932–the Roosevelt landslide–and served until his death in 1955. John Dingell, Jr. was elected in the 1955 special and served until his retirement in 2014. Debbie Dingell was elected in 2014 and reelected in 2016.

          It’s 85 years and counting for the Dingell family.

  • VastBlightKingConspiracy December 7, 2017 at 10:25 am

    TX-27: Why do we think Farenthold is going to get forced out by local Republicans? Local Republicans are the MOST supportive of Roy Moore when the rest of the party is embarassed.

    It’s increasingly obvious that this #MeToo stuff is really mostly destroying the careers of men in liberal parts of the world – Hollywood, Tech, and the Democratic Party. Sure, Farenthold isn’t ever going to be a Senator or anything, but he probably won’t have to resign if he doesn’t want to.


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    • Boehnerwasright December 7, 2017 at 10:49 am

      The Farenthold case is different from Conyers, Franken and Moore. The worst Farenthold was accused of was cheating on his wife and (maybe) sending unwanted nude pictures of him to an adult woman.
      While that behaviour is wrong, is it a lot less serious then groping/assaulting a women.

      If you want to look for republicans who get caught up in the #MeToo movement look in the statehouses in Florida and Kentucky.

      • cer December 7, 2017 at 10:52 am

        I think you are getting your Texas GOP Congressman mixed up. 🙂


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      • shamlet December 7, 2017 at 10:53 am

        That’s Barton. Farenthold paid an $84K settlement with taxpayer money to a woman who accused him of harassment.


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    • krazen1211 December 7, 2017 at 10:58 am

      If they were going to force out Farenholdt it would have been during the 2012 redistricting. Instead they gave him a safe seat.

      • shamlet December 7, 2017 at 11:00 am

        I do wonder if the lack of movement means that they’re just planning on throwing the seat under the bus if the court decision gets upheld. An SA-to-Corpus Hispanic seat probably makes more sense than any other option and would be winnable in the future (though not with Farenthold and not in 2018).


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        • rdw72777 December 7, 2017 at 11:03 am

          Not knowing my Texas geography, why would majority Hispanic seat from SA-to-CC be more winnable in the future? Is that area trending whiter and/or more GOP?

          • Greyhound December 7, 2017 at 11:16 am

            I don’t think he means that it would be more winnable, just that such a seat would be targetable by the GOP in a way that a Corpus Christi to the Border seat wouldn’t (Though the whole corridor is actually trending Republican). San Antonio’s Southern Suburbs are basically the biggest concentration of Republican-voting Hispanics in the country now that Miami has flipped, and Whites in that corridor are overwhelmingly Republican. Trump won 62% Hispanic Atascosa County by 29 points, which is actually better than Bush did in 2004


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            • shamlet December 7, 2017 at 11:25 am

              Yes. A downtown SA to downtown Corpus seat would be somewhere around EVEN to R+5, which probably flips in 2018 but could be winnable in a future cycle.


              R, MD-7. Put not your trust in princes. Process is more important than outcome.

          • krazen1211 December 7, 2017 at 11:58 am

            It’s a combination of.

            1. More republican than average hispanics
            2. Turnout differentials
            3. Heavily republican whites

            Nueces county is both heavily Hispanic and leans R, so it can serve as an anchor for a winnable seat.

            Obviously the legislature has to cherry pick and the 5th circuit court said no…but that’s why we have an appeals process.

    • Daniel Surman December 7, 2017 at 1:03 pm

      I mean Tarrant County Republicans turned against Barton, and that probably changed his calculus. Yet Farenthold gets a pass from his local Republicans.


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  • Mayor Perk December 7, 2017 at 11:56 am

    Franken on Senate floor saying he will resign “in the coming weeks.” Way to drag this out.


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    • davybaby December 7, 2017 at 12:03 pm

      I bought Franken’s book in October. If I had waited until now I could’ve bought it cheap.

    • Ryan_in_SEPA December 7, 2017 at 12:04 pm

      Well lets see and expel Moore on Wednesday as a two for one expulsion session.


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      • Indy1975a December 7, 2017 at 12:41 pm

        Moore may not be seated until Alabama certifies its election in late December. So we’ll have to wait a while.


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    • Indy1975a December 7, 2017 at 12:40 pm

      The Senate should physically expel him before he can resign, preferably together with Roy Moore.


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      • Ryan_in_SEPA December 7, 2017 at 1:05 pm

        Catapult preferably.


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        • w920us December 7, 2017 at 7:05 pm

          How about Pumpkin Chunkin?


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  • davybaby December 7, 2017 at 12:00 pm

    Bredesen will turn 75 jest after the 2018 election. I have nothing against him, but the inability to find a younger candidate says a lot about the strength of the Democratic bench in Tennessee.

    • Greyhound December 7, 2017 at 12:15 pm

      Yeah, this is the state party that saw a completely unserious nobody candidate beat their anointed in a statewide primary . . twice in two cycles. Bresden will save them from that embarrassment at least.


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    • GoBigRedState December 7, 2017 at 12:21 pm

      Call me skeptical that he will even make much of a race of this. To me, this reminds me of the other proven statewide vote-getters who recently have failed in comeback bids for Senate races-Tommy Thompson, Bob Kerrey, and Evan Bayh.


      45, NE-1, #NeverTrump in 2016, support Trump now as situation warrants

      • davybaby December 7, 2017 at 12:49 pm

        Or Ted Strickland in Ohio.

      • TennesseeMike December 7, 2017 at 12:54 pm

        I agree. It’s one thing to beat a a state senator no one has heard of (2006). It’s another thing to get Republicans to vote for a 75 year old Democrat for federal office. Make no mistake about it, Bredesen will need about 15% of voters who voted for Trump to vote for him. I just don’t see this happening. I know it’s a midterm and sometimes the number of voters is lower. But Tennessee will have an open Governor and open US Senate election in 2018. Republican voters will turnout in high numbers.


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    • Indy1975a December 7, 2017 at 12:33 pm

      He’s not going to come close to winning, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he does far better than the average D in suburban areas.


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    • HS December 7, 2017 at 12:40 pm

      I think Bresden has to be careful in the primary. I read the other guy has already raised a million dollars, and if Bresden phones it in – which some older candidates do – he could lose the primary to the “voice of a new generation.” Dems are very susceptible to this – see JFK, Bill Clinton, Barack Obama.

    • GorrestFump December 7, 2017 at 1:04 pm

      TN Dems did have a pretty decent candidate James Mackler who was only 44 and an Iraq War Army vet, this feels like Strickland-Sittenfield all over again. Younger candidate shunned by establishment over an octogenarian that the party thinks is their best shot.

      • Izengabe December 7, 2017 at 1:10 pm

        This is the 2nd highly hyped young vet that the KY Dems have pushed aside for an a more established pol. Kentucky Democrats just told Amy McGrath she can’t be their Congressional candidate.


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        • Son_of_the_South December 7, 2017 at 3:32 pm

          We’re talking about TN, not KY, but there is certainly a parallel.


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      • californianintexas December 7, 2017 at 10:50 pm

        There is also 49-year-old Andy Berke, mayor of Chattanooga, who I brought up on DKE. I haven’t seen signs of him considering running though.


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        • Carolingian December 7, 2017 at 11:58 pm

          Today he tweeted his endorsement of Bredesen.


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  • VastBlightKingConspiracy December 7, 2017 at 12:03 pm

    Nothing screams more mainstream conservative than the Wall Street Journal editorial board. They called on Mueller to resign yesterday, which suggests that mainstream Republicans are losing their sympathy for the probe.

    As people on here have noticed, the probe only has political significance if it can sway Republicans. And it likely cannot at this point.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/muellers-credibility-problem-1512432318


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  • sentinelrules December 7, 2017 at 12:19 pm

    I agree 100% with this take about Franken

    https://twitter.com/stevenfhayward/status/938814043950784512

    • Izengabe December 7, 2017 at 12:36 pm

      If Tom Emmer was Governor of Minnesota Al Franken would not be resigning nor would the Democrats be calling on him to do so.


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      • Manhatlibertarian December 7, 2017 at 1:48 pm

        -I agree with you that if Minn had a GOP Gov to appoint a Franken replacement, most Senate Dems wouldn’t have pushed for him to leave.
        -Notice that Franken in effect called some of his accusers liars and said of others he didn’t remember the encounters they way they did; he also seemed to think he would come out OK in an Senate Ethics Committee investigation. So while he talked about empowering women etc., I never heard him say I really committed sexual harassment and these women are correct.
        -He resigned because he realized his effectiveness as a Senator was gone with most of his Dem senate colleagues turning on him and the steady drip drip of accusations against him. I don’t think he feared expulsion because senators are reluctant to do that just based on allegations, not a criminal conviction.
        -I wonder though if he has left himself an escape hatch by not giving a definite date for his resignation, just a vague statement about resigning in the coming weeks. If Moore wins and is seated maybe he thinks that will give him an excuse to stay. Probably not, but I wouldn’t rule out anything with him, he is a slippery guy.

        • rdw72777 December 7, 2017 at 1:53 pm

          Schumer’s going to pull him off committees if he stays; I’m guessing that’s what’s pushed him out.

          I think the delay is he wants to have a say in his successor…about which we hear very few rumors in national media (likely due to Dayton’s health not letting him be more communicative about it).

  • VastBlightKingConspiracy December 7, 2017 at 12:26 pm

    Big question here. Would the Democrats be the favorites to win in Alabama if they had someone like this as their candidate?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_prNM4QxF8E

    I somehow suspect Robert F. Kennedy Jr. would have been favored to take this seat…


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    • Indy1975a December 7, 2017 at 12:37 pm

      No chance at all. But the establishment Rs would make a serious attempt with a write-in candidate if RFK Jr had been the nominee. There would be a path for an Alaska 2010 like situation if the Ds had nominated a joke candidate.
      It was because Doug Jones was a serious candidate who would consolidate Ds that a write-in campaign was not going to win.


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    • Izengabe December 7, 2017 at 2:47 pm

      No. I dont think Alvin Greene would have faired too well in the Pervnado:
      https://www.cbsnews.com/news/alvin-greene-indicted-for-promoting-porn/


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  • sentinelrules December 7, 2017 at 12:41 pm

    WATN News: TN, Harold Ford

    https://twitter.com/yashar/status/938823880793362432

    • Izengabe December 7, 2017 at 1:05 pm

      What an idiot! Ford had the cushiest job ever. Morgan Stanley was just throwing money at him to be Harold Ford and he just f’ed it up. What a schmuck.


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      • rdw72777 December 7, 2017 at 1:08 pm

        People always gave him waaaayyyyyyyy too much credit for being smart.

  • GerGOP December 7, 2017 at 1:05 pm

    The SPD Convention delegates just voted to enter Open and unbiased talks with CDU/CSU after aggressive Calls from Party leadership. This after the SPD leadership voted twice not to do so in the last few months, mind you.
    Any sort of coalition agreement will have to be ratified by a members vote.

    • kewgardens December 7, 2017 at 6:48 pm

      Wow. Looks like the SPD is bucking for a sub-15% performance in the next general election.

  • Ryan_in_SEPA December 7, 2017 at 1:10 pm

    http://www.post-gazette.com/news/politics-state/2017/12/07/Art-Halvorson-bill-shuster-poll-congress-house-of-representatives-gravis-marketing-republican/stories/201712070130

    PA-9: Halverson might challenge Shuster again.


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    • shamlet December 7, 2017 at 2:11 pm

      Ugh. We really need someone more serious to step up and challenge him. Shuster is up there with Walter Jones as among the worst misuses of a Safe seat.


      R, MD-7. Put not your trust in princes. Process is more important than outcome.

      • Izengabe December 7, 2017 at 2:12 pm

        Scott DesJarlais says “Hi”.


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        • shamlet December 7, 2017 at 2:21 pm

          DesJarlais is several steps above.


          R, MD-7. Put not your trust in princes. Process is more important than outcome.

  • dforston December 7, 2017 at 1:34 pm

    I’m a bit confused as to what Franken and the Democrats believe that Franken did (not really). Here are some questions they need to answer…

    1. Franken – What specific allegations are true? Are you a serial groper? Did you forcibly kiss multiple women?
    2. All Senate Democrats – What specific allegations are true? Is he a serial groper? Did he forcibly kiss multiple women?
    3. All Senate Democrats – If he is a serial groper and/or forcibly kissing people, are you OK with him staying in the senate for weeks? Should female colleagues, both senators and staff, be on guard? Aren’t you putting them at risk by allowing him to stay?
    4. All Senate Democrats – Why did it take 7 allegations to call for him to resign? Do senators get a free pass on the first 6?

    • segmentation_fault December 7, 2017 at 2:35 pm

      Okay but also ask the RNC why they’re funding Moore’s campaign. And ask Paul Ryan why he wants John Conyers to step down but not Blake Farenthold.


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      • dforston December 7, 2017 at 2:57 pm

        As for the RNC, they are backing Moore because Trump is.

  • rdw72777 December 7, 2017 at 1:51 pm

    Hooray the GOP is still concerned about my tax concerns

    https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/07/john-cornyn-talks-state-and-local-deductions-in-gop-tax-plan.html

    I personally think the real solution is to just make the $10k property tax deduction become a $10k property/sales/income tax deduction. The dollar amount exmepted doesn’t change but the base does. This would seemingly appease some SALT deducters who don’t pay huge property taxes (whether they be renters or have tax abatements or what not) while still holding to the magical $10k amount.

    • Izengabe December 7, 2017 at 2:11 pm

      $10k is still WAY too low.


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      • rdw72777 December 7, 2017 at 2:18 pm

        Ehh $10k with all the other changes really can’t have too much impact on anyone making less than $150k and owning a home valued at less than $500k.

        I’m hardly a proponent of the existing bill, but even if you look at NJ with it’s median home value of around $325k and median taxes of around $7k they’d still get an additional $3k to deduct. And going to say the Philly burbs this is a huge win as the property taxes are lower but significant chunk work in Philly so their combined state/local income tax is around 6.5-7% of income.

        Not surprisingly I benefit from this too, as my property taxes are less than $6k so that would give me an extra $4k to deduct which would put me right about back to even where the current tax code would tax me. Though if they want to make the total higher (say $12k-$15k) again it wouldn’t seem like a deal-breaker for the deficit hawks (who honestly are useless and should be dismissed anyways) as it gives very little to those in expensive houses or high property tax areas and really tends to help lower-upper and upper-middle income people with lower property taxes but high SALT taxes…which si agroup I’d think the GOP would want to try and help a little.

        • Ryan_in_SEPA December 7, 2017 at 2:54 pm

          I think $10,000 would eliminate most of the whining in swingy areas, but I would still be better off with the new standard deduction and lower rates.


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          • Izengabe December 7, 2017 at 3:08 pm

            That’s the point. $10k is not enough to make itemizing beneficial over taking the standard deduction. So most filers will be taxed on their state taxes. If the deduction was higher than people could benefit from it.


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          • krazen1211 December 7, 2017 at 3:14 pm

            $10k covers a $600k house in Bucks County. That’s double the median home.

            • rdw72777 December 7, 2017 at 3:27 pm

              Also depends on how much mortgage interest if any you are paying. Probably why me being a single homeowner in Philly in year 2 of a mortgage gets hurt under this plan (I’m going to itemize no matter what as my mortgage interest plus other stuff makes it a no-brainer) and Ryan as a married homeowner in the burbs with a less expensive house (lower mortgage interest most likely) will benefit with the new standard deduction.

            • Ryan_in_SEPA December 7, 2017 at 3:36 pm

              My house is slightly below the median price for the West Chester school district, which has the lowest property taxes in Chester County. If you took my mortgage interest, property taxes, state income taxes plus Philly Wage Tax, I would still be better off with the new standard deduction and lower rates over the existing rates and itemizing. Even if I get to a point where this would not be beneficial to me directly, getting rid of the AMT would still make it worth it.


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        • VastBlightKingConspiracy December 7, 2017 at 3:05 pm

          Homeowners are disproportionately old and guess who votes the GOP into office? It’s sure as heck not the Socialism/Communism-loving millennial generation that votes 70% Democratic.

          The GOP made a tremendous error in not going all-in on a massive owner-occupied mortgage bailout in 2009. Would have united a lot of Democrats too (especially because minorities were also disproportionately likely to have underwater mortgages).


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          • Izengabe December 7, 2017 at 3:10 pm

            Really? The tea party that swept the GOP into power in the House and Senate was based over anger at the government bailing out people living beyond their means with mortgages they could not pay for.


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            • VastBlightKingConspiracy December 7, 2017 at 3:14 pm

              “get your government out of my medicare”

              The tea party that swept the GOP into power was based on older, wealthier, whiter, more educated, and more conservative voters getting mad at admittedly dumb things Obama did (namely the stimulus and Obamacare), not at things Obama never even proposed interest in doing.

              In a way though, the stimulus did bail out a lot of public sector unions, so maybe I guess.


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              • Izengabe December 7, 2017 at 11:03 pm

                Seriously? Rick Santelli’s rant that started the Tea Party was about being pissed off at the government taking your money to payoff your economically irresponsible neighbors mortgage. It was anger at what you are proposing that started the conservative revolt.
                https://youtu.be/bEZB4taSEoA


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          • Indy1975a December 7, 2017 at 4:12 pm

            “The GOP made a tremendous error in not going all-in on a massive owner-occupied mortgage bailout in 2009. Would have united a lot of Democrats too (especially because minorities were also disproportionately likely to have underwater mortgages).”

            I would argue that the Ds made the massive error in not doing this. Doing this and really hammering Wall Street may have prevented (or at least softened) the populist reaction that came in the years afterwards. Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner thought the economy would be fine with 10 million foreclosures and that ended up carrying the day.


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            • Greyhound December 7, 2017 at 4:16 pm

              Yeah, this is where the Occupy Wall Street Movement basically came from. The Far-left was pissed that, despite having secured substantial majorities at all levels of Government, Obama didn’t bail out home owners and instead just stuck with bailing out the banks.


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              • Indy1975a December 7, 2017 at 4:25 pm

                It wasn’t just the hard left. People across the political spectrum were pissed that the banks were bailed out and little was done to help average homeowners. It is likely a majority viewpoint among Trump voters in the primary.
                McCain proposed to use some of the bank bailout money to help home owners in 2008, but it got buried in the rest of the campaign noise.


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                • Greyhound December 7, 2017 at 4:40 pm

                  Oh I know, but I was just citing the specific case of Occupy Wall Street (and their successors in the Sanderistas).


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      • VastBlightKingConspiracy December 7, 2017 at 2:54 pm

        The people who are hurt by limiting the deduction to $10k are almost all rich enough that they’d still benefit from the bill on balance (due to an increased AMT).

        Or so rich, they care more about the corporate tax rate than how much in taxes they personally pay.


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        • rdw72777 December 7, 2017 at 3:29 pm

          Not true, I’m hardly rich and I get hit. It’s not really that unique a set of circumstances and a lot has to do with married/single and how much mortgage interest you pay (even though that remains unchanged in all plans).

          • VastBlightKingConspiracy December 7, 2017 at 3:45 pm

            Define “rich” here. Wealthy people in America love complaining about how poor and financially stressed and middle-class they are, usually making false claims like “$500k is middle-class where I live!” Those types seem to be disproportionately the types complaining about this.


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            • rdw72777 December 7, 2017 at 3:58 pm

              I’m barely at $100k in income, single, no kids. I really don’t benefit at all from the standard deduction (increasing it by ~$5,500 while losing the personal exemption ~$4,000 is about a wash), I don’t benefit from child tax credits. There’s other stuff too of course that we need not line item detail on the internet. 🙂

              But to it’s really not that hard to see where marital status, number of children and SALT amounts make a huge difference even well below the $500k zone simple because every dollar of SALT is deferrable in situations where charity donations and mortgage interest already get them past the standard deduction.

              That being said if I made $30k less or $50k more I’d obviously benefit. I don’t really care, I’m not a tax-oriented voter nor someone who’s going to suffer from this at all in any real way…just the reality is a bit more complicated and probably applies to more people than some on here think. If it works out to less than I spend at bars each week it can’t really be that much of a bother 🙂

      • Jon December 11, 2017 at 11:18 pm

        ??? My combined state income tax + state sales tax + state/local property taxes combine for well under 10K.

        In any case; the House passed plan is estimated as benefiting me by $125 for federal taxes while the Senate passed plan is estimated as costing me $50 more in federal taxes.

        The primary impact for me is that holding 2016 income and deductions constant that I’d switch from itemizing to taking the standard deduction. Just holding the itemization constant while doubling standard deduction would make it more difficult to continue itemizing.


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  • Izengabe December 7, 2017 at 2:42 pm

    We may have to start a pool!

    SOURCES: @CNN and @washingtonpost working on exposing 20-30 congressional members 4 sexual harassment. #DC
    https://twitter.com/RRHElections/status/938855003648942080


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    • Ryan_in_SEPA December 7, 2017 at 2:48 pm

      I think that counts as the Tsunami Warning for the Tsunami I have been talking about. This might be milder than I suspected as I was guessing like 50.

      I am tempted we should just have an open thread/pool where we just make wild guesses on the people under investigation.


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      • rdw72777 December 7, 2017 at 3:32 pm

        Did you count the so very many already caught up. Your 50 might be right on the money.

        • kewgardens December 7, 2017 at 7:07 pm

          I may be paranoid, but I would not be surprised if the 20-30 people that WaPo and CNN expose will be largely Republican. And the Dems will likely be from safe seats.

          Of course, members on both sides have committed harassment. I just think that the institutional biases at CNN and the Washington Post will lead them to dig harder for Republicans. Especially vulnerable Republicans. Or Republican senators from states with Dem governors.

          Of course, I may just be paranoid.

          • w920us December 7, 2017 at 7:18 pm

            Aren’t there just like 5 Republican Senators with Dem Governors?

            As opposed to up to 25 Democratic Senators with Republican Governors?


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            • Carolingian December 7, 2017 at 7:29 pm

              R senators with Dem govs I think:
              Daines
              Toomey
              Gardner
              Kennedy
              Cassidy
              Burr
              Tillis
              Murkowski (AK*)
              Sullivan (AK*)


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          • Indy1975a December 7, 2017 at 9:27 pm

            The D senator that I think is most likely is Menendez (there’s a report out there that he has sex with underage prostitutes abroad, but even if that is not true it is very likely he’s done other stuff).


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    • Jon Henrik Gilhuus December 7, 2017 at 2:49 pm

      If you’re getting 30 special elections we’d need to collect donations to pay shamlets medical bills for carpal tunnel syndrome.


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      • rdw72777 December 7, 2017 at 3:30 pm

        A call for subsidized healthcare on RRH…what has the world come to 🙂

        • Jon Henrik Gilhuus December 7, 2017 at 3:53 pm

          Au contraire! If the funds can’t be raised voluntarily, I’m happy to let the shamlet go barefoot and pregnant!


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    • Indy1975a December 7, 2017 at 2:59 pm

      I would first guess the congressmen who have been unfaithful to their wives. Those the ones who are most likely to commit sexual harassment. Also some of the men who are single, in particular those who have a reputation as playboys.


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      • rdw72777 December 7, 2017 at 3:31 pm

        So in other words, men? Prophetic.

        • Indy1975a December 7, 2017 at 3:41 pm

          Not all men are disgusting lechers. Many take their marriage vows very seriously.


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          • rdw72777 December 7, 2017 at 3:44 pm

            Yes but your post says single men and married men who’ve been unfaithful By definition all involved have been unfaithful to their wives or are single…there isn’t really a third option..unless it’s men who’ve been unfaithful for their husbands.

            • VastBlightKingConspiracy December 7, 2017 at 3:46 pm

              Though much to the celebration of liberals, most gay marriage are not monogamous so uh…take that for what you will.

              http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2013/06/26/most_gay_couples_aren_t_monogamous_will_straight_couples_go_monogamish.html


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              • rdw72777 December 7, 2017 at 3:48 pm

                This hardly seems relevant and seems likely intended to set off a flame war about homosexuality.

                • VastBlightKingConspiracy December 7, 2017 at 3:58 pm

                  If it means anything, upon further inquiry, the study results are misleadingly massaged to fit the narrative liberals want, aka. “valiant gays leading America away from evil monogamy!”

                  When the study only looks at gay couples (of whom only a more conservative subgroup would get married due to marriage being an evil patriarchal construct).

                  Most importantly, the study only looks at gay couples in San Francisco/Palo Alto, who are of course not going to be normal because people of all sexual orientations in San Francisco are strange. I bet that at least 1/3rd of heterosexual relationships in San Fran are non-monogamous!


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                  • Indy1975a December 7, 2017 at 4:06 pm

                    I had an argument at work about this with some colleagues. I suggested that there were more polygamous people in San Francisco than in Utah. Perhaps Seattle as well.

                    BTW, I’m not at all surprised regarding the results of the article you linked, although I suspect Slate published that to oppose monogamy, which would be a complete disaster for society.


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                    • VastBlightKingConspiracy December 7, 2017 at 4:11 pm

                      It might be an age/millennial thing though. When I lived in SF, it felt to me like 2/3rds of the relationships among people my age were non-monogamous. So what about Salt Lake City vs. San Francisco vs. Portland?

                      Regardless, these relationships seem to be extremely unstable, so natural selection will eventually come into play.


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                    • Indy1975a December 7, 2017 at 4:20 pm

                      VBKC: My (liberal) coworker wasn’t talking about SLC per se. He was bringing up the polygamy among some non-mainstream Mormons (who were made fun of in Sister Wives or Big Love, never watched either). My argument was that the Mormon church bans polygamy, so there aren’t that many people practicing it in Utah, while there were a good number who do in San Fran or Seattle.

                      The media has portrayed polygamy as something that Mormons practice in general (absolutely not true), when the truth is that most poly types are cultural hard left in some of the more liberal cities in the country.


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            • Indy1975a December 7, 2017 at 4:01 pm

              What I am saying is that the most likely candidates in Congress who have committed sexual harassment are married men who cheat on their wives and single men who are promiscuous. While there may be some who don’t fit these two categories (for example, single men who are not playboys).

              As far as gays, yes gay males probably commit sexual harassment far more than straight males per capita, but there also aren’t that many gay men in Congress.


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              • rdw72777 December 7, 2017 at 4:03 pm

                “As far as gays, yes gay males probably commit sexual harassment far more than straight males per capita, but there also aren’t that many gay men in Congress.”

                What is this based on?

                • Indy1975a December 7, 2017 at 4:07 pm

                  Based on a couple articles I read that suggested that groping is pretty common (and far more tolerated apparently) in the gay community and at gay bars.


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                  • Ryan_in_SEPA December 7, 2017 at 4:30 pm

                    We can all stop this discussion now.


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  • StatenIslandTest December 7, 2017 at 2:45 pm

    NJ-State Sen/Gov: The limits of trifectas:

    https://www.insidernj.com/source-senate-judiciary-movement-today-just-one-several-significant-murphy-world-headaches/


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  • shamlet December 7, 2017 at 2:47 pm

    Gonzales tweets something’s up with Trent Franks.


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    • aas34 December 7, 2017 at 2:52 pm

      I’d have to imagine Steve Montenegro would drop down from his Secretary of State run to replace Franks given that he used to work for him and has represented most of the district.


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    • Izengabe December 7, 2017 at 2:53 pm

      Maybe Ben Quayle can make a comeback.


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      • Son_of_the_South December 7, 2017 at 3:39 pm

        Heck yeah, I hope he does. I always liked his style. The lack of BS was refreshing.


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    • cer December 7, 2017 at 4:19 pm

      Is Franks going to run for Senate!?


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      • cer December 7, 2017 at 10:13 pm

        Obviously, he isn’t running for the Senate now. 🙂


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  • VastBlightKingConspiracy December 7, 2017 at 3:26 pm

    well god damn, the WH loves screwing with everyone. after telling everyone that they were moving onto welfare next…looks like it’s actually infrastructure!

    https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2017-12-07/trump-is-said-to-ready-infrastructure-plan-for-january-release

    IMO, this is a mistake. infrastructure should probably wait until after the midterms, since it’ll be easier to push through than say, welfare reform (which Democrats would boycott).


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    • Midnight901 December 7, 2017 at 3:59 pm

      Doing welfare reform in an election year is a recipe for suicide.

      • Greyhound December 7, 2017 at 4:09 pm

        What exactly is meant by “Welfare Reform” in this context anyway? I feel like that is important, since this is the first I’ve heard of it being on the GOP agenda this year.


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        • VastBlightKingConspiracy December 7, 2017 at 4:14 pm

          http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/trump-tees-up-welfare-reform/article/2642303

          The GOP is pretty consistent in what it wants out of welfare, since it’s been enacting that stuff in every state they take control of. Drug-testing in some, work requirements in most, more block grants to the states, nutrition restrictions in SNAP, etc. etc.


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          • rdw72777 December 7, 2017 at 4:20 pm

            God knows why they’d bother on this. Drug testing has already been shown to cost more than it saves. And if the govt wants to give these people jobs many would take them…but if they think having people mow lawns in parks will change much in terms of dollars and cents the proof will bear out in about 18 months. I’m more than happy to let them play with SNAP, they’ll inevitably find the rural white states where it’s popular will be less receptive to govt control of their food choices.

            Now this wouldn’t be the death Midnight101 is talking about, as I think we may have assumed it meant entitlement reform (I did). The GOP can enact a bog ol’ nothing-burger of welfare reform any time they want…it’ll have very little implication positive/negative on 2018.

            • Indy1975a December 7, 2017 at 4:32 pm

              I’d like to do massive entitlement reform in the lame duck session. Let’s really reform SS, Medicare, and Medicaid; these are the primary contributors to our deficit and debt going forward.


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            • Greyhound December 7, 2017 at 4:33 pm

              For the record, the point of drug testing is not really to save money on welfare as much as it is a visceral reaction to the social phenomena of the welfare druggies. There’s a mistaken assumption people have that the fact that some of the places with the highest levels of welfare vote for aggressively anti-welfare Republicans is a case of people “voting against their own interests”, when the truth is closer to that everyone else in the community who isn’t on welfare tends to HATE the ones who are. I doubt anything makes someone despise welfare more than not being on it and living next to a druggie who is, and that is the foundation of the Paul LePage style Blue-collar GOP Welfare hawks.


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              • VastBlightKingConspiracy December 7, 2017 at 4:36 pm

                +1. The most right-wing demographic in America are reasonably well-to-do people in poorer parts of the country, because they can see their Cousin Joe on crystal meth and go “why the hell should I subsidize him???”.

                Some liberals get this, and the reasons they’re still liberals is because tend to be the really left-wing ones who hate the concept of “undeserving poor”, because they believe that the druggie (or even worse, the humanities PHD) deserves welfare.


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              • rdw72777 December 7, 2017 at 4:45 pm

                Well if you’re not saving money then the drug testing must not be catching him. So what exactly is the point?

                Again I don’t truly care, as this program literally does nothing, but at some point making people feel like you’re doing something while actually doing nothing doesn’t actually help the guy who HATES welfare recipients because the welfare recipient is still there. The welfare recipient, by and large, still gets their check in almost every case. (And the one who doesn’t is just going to break into your house while you’re at work.)

                • Son_of_the_South December 7, 2017 at 4:56 pm

                  I guess the point is to discourage drug abuse.


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                  • VastBlightKingConspiracy December 7, 2017 at 5:01 pm

                    We do after all, spend millions on a War on Drugs. This seems like a pretty natural extension.


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                    • Ryan_in_SEPA December 7, 2017 at 5:05 pm

                      It is a very natural extension and it is political common sense to throw these people a bone just like building the border wall is nominal in cost compared to the psychological impact provided.


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                • Ryan_in_SEPA December 7, 2017 at 5:03 pm

                  This is one of those things I have to translate for people who have never lived anywhere lower than an upper middle class suburban area. This applies where I grew up very well. It is borderline comical how much people rail against welfare in places like Greene County, PA. If you listened to them you would think that 50% of the population nationally was on SSI disability, TANF, and SNAP. The meth/opioid crises have made this sentiment worse. The irony is that these places would actually support these programs if a smaller portion of the local population was not deadbeats. The clueless left does not realize it could get a strong left-wing communitarian agenda shoved through if it took a hard line on anti-social behavior.


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                  • VastBlightKingConspiracy December 7, 2017 at 5:08 pm

                    Of note is that the world’s longest-lived left-wing socialist state took a remarkably hard-line on “anti-social behavior”.

                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasitism_(social_offense)#Soviet_Union


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                    • Manhatlibertarian December 7, 2017 at 6:33 pm

                      Well if you were a “social parasite” Rudy Guiliani knew what do do with you! He would make you rake leaves in Central Park! Gee and lots and lots of leaves got raked.

                  • rdw72777 December 7, 2017 at 5:31 pm

                    I get the theory but it makes no sense to do it in 2018. You’ll end up with a bill that increases spending for all kinds of rural programs (everybody and their brother will line up from methdone clinic grants) and bleeding hearts like Collins will get her state some graft and Jeff Flake will demand more DACA stuff for dreamers on welfare (and God knows Murkoski will want to ensure polar bears/penguins keep getting their welfare checks). And you won’t end up actually cutting any of the aforementioned programs…because the spending bills get too political (cutting any part of SSI for instance).

                    You could crucify by Dems by doing infrastructure that builds bridges everywhere, especially in ND and IN and MO…but I don’t think you get any bang for the buck on welfare since it’s all just moving shells around and then expanding welfare into non-welfare (but really welfare diversion) programs. If nothing else infrastructure would prevent the .0001% chance at recession in 2018 (and probably through 2020) which should lead to near permanent (through 2026) GOP control of the Senate.

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  • Manhatlibertarian December 7, 2017 at 3:33 pm

    Thursday NY Tidbits:

    Dem NY Assembly Majority Leader Joe Morelle admits that if the SALT deduction is curtailed in the GOP Tax Bill, as appears likely, it will be harder for Dems to push for upper income tax increases to fund more social program priorities if they take control of both chambers of the legislature. Without the federal tax deduction for state income taxes, a state income tax increase might cause more upper income taxpayers to leave the state.

    There may be friction between NY Gov Cuomo and incoming NJ Gov Murphy over several issues, despite the fact both are Dems. Murphy wants Port Authority funding for a new bus terminal in Manhattan that serves many NJ commuters but Cuomo has other priorities. Also Cuomo is in favor of congestion pricing for cars entering Manhattan, but Murphy thinks that will be unfair to NJ car commuters.

    Cuomo has made it clear that he will oppose a pay raise for legislators if a budget is not adopted by April 1, the deadline for the next state fiscal year. He appears to be leaning toward not holding 2 State Senate special elections that may trigger a move by the Dems to take control of the State Senate under a new plan unifying the 2 feuding Dem factions until after the budget deadline. He fears a move by Dems to take control of the State Senate in mid March will make passage of an on time budget more difficult. There would be Dem jockeying for leadership posts and committee chairmanships and the GOP has threatened to try and prevent a Dem takeover by invoking the 3/5 rule for changing leadership in midterm, which would probably lead to court action.

    Dem NYC Councilman Steve Levin of Brooklyn has blasted the deBlasio Admin for calling for a re-bid of the Brooklyn Triangle housing development in response to a lawsuit by an organization representing minority groups. The lawsuit organization said the initial plan favored Hasidic Jews because there were many large apartments (and Hasidic Jews tend to have larger families than other people) and the preference for the apartments were for people from Williamsburg only, but not heavily minority neighboring Bed-Stuy. Under the lawsuit settlement, more smaller apartments will be available and Bed-Stuy residents will also get a preference for the housing when the project is re-bid. This settlement has angered the United Jewish Organizations of Brooklyn which has won the initial bid for the housing project along with the Ridgewood Bushwick Senior Citizens Council.

    all at:

    http://www.nystateofpolitics.com/

    • w920us December 7, 2017 at 7:03 pm

      I love how Cuomo is so transparent regarding him always screwing over the State Senate Democratic caucus. Doesn’t even bat an eye it seems.


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      • Manhatlibertarian December 7, 2017 at 9:56 pm

        Cuomo knows the state is facing a budget deficit, so he has to make cuts and doesn’t want to raise taxes next year when he running for re-election. So leaving the GOP in charge of the State Senate before the budget vote enables him to do just that. Of course some left leaning progressive leaders, like Zephyr Teachout, smell a rat in all this Dem State Senate unity talk and they are probably right.

  • edtorres04 December 7, 2017 at 4:55 pm

    Trent franks to resign due to possible inappropriate behavior

    http://www.rollcall.com/news/politics/arizonas-trent-franks-expected-resign

    • cer December 7, 2017 at 5:13 pm

      If you are going to resign, this is the way to do it. Just do it, and don’t drag it out.


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      • Manhatlibertarian December 7, 2017 at 6:10 pm

        And don’t weasel word like Mr. Franken, who can’t recall doing anything wrong. If you don’t recall doing anything wrong then why are you resigning? Stay and fight the accusations! And if you are going to resign then resign, don’t not give a date and don’t make a vague statement it will be sometime weeks in the future.

        • Indy1975a December 7, 2017 at 6:15 pm

          He’s resigning because he “can’t be effective in representing Minnesota anymore”… Expected BS from the worst senator in many decades.

          #ExpelFrankenBeforeHeResigns


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    • Son_of_the_South December 7, 2017 at 5:26 pm

      There are likely many more coming if the report about CNN and WaPo is to be believed. I was in DC long enough to know that there are a lot creeps in Congress (though fewer than your average voter might assume). Up until, everyone has pretty much covered for everyone else unless something happened publicly or it was unusually heinous. That means there are a lot of secrets to be aired.


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      • rdw72777 December 7, 2017 at 5:34 pm

        The truly shocking part thus far is the near-exclusive focus on Congress. Given how large federal govt is, and how much turnover there is in Cabinet departments and other Federal agencies (i.e. turnover potentially increasing potential ass grabbers per annum), I’m rather shocked we haven’t seen a large scale blowout anywhere but Congress. Certainly there’s stories to be told in those areas still.

        • Son_of_the_South December 7, 2017 at 6:09 pm

          Good point


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          • Ryan_in_SEPA December 7, 2017 at 7:35 pm

            The Deep State is covering for itself.


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            • Son_of_the_South December 8, 2017 at 1:11 am

              Hahaha you may be right.


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        • Izengabe December 7, 2017 at 11:09 pm

          You can thank Barbara Comstock for this! She’s the one who spearheaded and pushed for the sexual harassment hearings that brought to light the government slush fund used to payoff and sweep the sexual harassment complaints under the rug. Comstock is why all these incidents are seeing the light of day. Comstock is the hero who helped exposed all these Washington creeps.


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          • Son_of_the_South December 8, 2017 at 1:12 am

            Good point. I’m glad it’s actually worth having her in Congress, because I hear that she treats her staff like crap.


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    • krazen1211 December 7, 2017 at 5:43 pm

      I guess we know why he left Jeff Flake have the Senate seat.

  • Manhatlibertarian December 7, 2017 at 5:46 pm

    OK you keep hearing every vote counts, well here is a real example of that. The GOP candidate for a city council seat in the city of Troy, New York was behind the Dem by 2 votes with 3 disputed absentee ballots to be opened. When a judge ruled they were valid, they were all for the Repub, Mark McGrath, so in the end he won 458-457. Although Dems still have a 4-3 majority on the city council, McGrath’s winning prevents the Dems from having a supermajority that can override the state imposed cap on how much property taxes can be increased. I’m sure there are some Troy Dems in the district who now think, gee if only I had gone and voted on election day (a tie would have led to the seat being filled by the Dem controlled city council).

    http:/www.troyrecord.com/government-and-politics//20171206/final-ballots-give-mcgrath-win-in-troy-city-council-race

    • rdw72777 December 7, 2017 at 5:57 pm

      And in “your vote doesn’t really matter news” McGrath was the deciding vote last year for over-riding state spending caps in the last year. Now mind you the inital proposal was for a 28.2% tax increase but that was never a serious proposal.

      This is the relative shadows of Albany ya know 🙂

      • Manhatlibertarian December 7, 2017 at 6:13 pm

        Ah but he was against the garbage fee increase!

    • Republican Michigander December 7, 2017 at 9:55 pm

      In 2002, there was a 6 way primary for the then newly created HD-47 in my county. The winner, then 22 year old farmer Joe Hune (now State Senator) “lost” by 1 vote on election night and ended up winning on the recount by two.

      Two of his relatives forgot to show up and vote that day. They got kicked out of the election party by either Joe or his parents.
      Two of the 2nd place guy’s (who was also a good guy, as is Joe) supposed friends later told him “If we known you would have lost, we would have voted for you.” The 2nd place guy was the frontrunner and “supposed” to win. Some friends.

      http://miboecfr.nictusa.com/election/results/02PRI/#08047000


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  • Manhatlibertarian December 7, 2017 at 5:54 pm

    Use this website instead for article:

    http://www.troyrecord.com/government-and-politics/20171206/final-ballots-give-mcgrath-win-in-troy-city-council-race

  • shamlet December 7, 2017 at 5:59 pm

    Franks has been FP’d.


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  • VastBlightKingConspiracy December 7, 2017 at 6:35 pm

    Wow, I had to just look up the details of an election for work. And I couldn’t find any details on the internet, until I realized I could skip back to the relevant date on RRH. GJ. Not sure how some of you guys do it.


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  • w920us December 7, 2017 at 7:55 pm

    McConnell has another Circuit court vote-a-rama scheduled for next week, with three nominees on tap after being voted out of committee this morning.

    -Leonard Steven Grasz, of Nebraska, to be United States Circuit Judge for the Eighth Circuit;
    -Don R. Willett, of Texas, to be a Circuit Judge, United States Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit;
    -James C. Ho, of Texas, to be United States Circuit Judge for the Fifth Circuit.

    Senate Judiciary Committee approves three of Trump’s federal appeals court nominees
    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/senate-judiciary-committee-approves-three-of-trumps-federal-appeals-court-nominees/article/2642822


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    • rdelbov December 7, 2017 at 8:35 pm

      Senator Whitehouse’s comments are really strange.
      These nominees are here precisely because powerful interests expect them to be terrible judges,” Whitehouse charged.

      “For those powerful interests, this is not a bug in the nominees’ candidacies, it is the feature,” he added.

      Oh my goodness–I guess any judge who disagrees with Senator Whitehouse on a ruling is terrible? Bizarre ides

      • edtorres04 December 7, 2017 at 9:06 pm

        What’s up with the 20-30 district court judges that have been voted out of committee but haven’t gotten a floor vote?

        • krazen1211 December 7, 2017 at 9:36 pm

          Watch for a gigantic Christmas judge drop. Mitch doesn’t want to waste 30 hours or whatever on the district nominees.

          All the more reason to make sure we hold the Senate. Else none of this will happen.

  • w920us December 7, 2017 at 8:10 pm

    Omg, The 9th Circuit is mind-numbingly oblivious to the real world. The Supremes just gave a major clue to its feelings regarding Trump’s travel ban by voting 7-2 to allow it to take effect while being reviewed.

    Ninth Circuit wrestles with blocking Trump’s third travel ban
    http://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/363668-ninth-circuit-divided-on-blocking-trumps-third-travel-ban


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  • LtNOWIS December 7, 2017 at 9:42 pm

    Cory Gardner is reportedly pushing Jim Gilmore to run in VA-SEN. This is a bad idea, since I don’t think Gilmore would do any better than Frietas or some other random state legislator. Gilmore’s 2008 race was a catastrophic failure and he hasn’t exactly improved his credentials since then.

    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/363893-senate-campaign-chief-urges-jim-gilmore-to-run-in-virginia-report


    28, VA-11

    • Indy1975a December 7, 2017 at 9:46 pm

      He’s better than Corey Stewart. Or EW Jackson for that matter.


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      • HS December 7, 2017 at 10:05 pm

        I don’t think he is better than Stewart. However, Gillmore is better than Jackson. Still, can’t we try someone who isn’t a loser?

        • Izengabe December 7, 2017 at 10:58 pm

          Gillmore is about getting a VA Senate nominee who wont Akin everybody down with him.


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        • roguemapper December 7, 2017 at 11:32 pm

          Well, she’s certainly a loser, but wasn’t Carly Fiorina in the mix for VA Senate?


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      • LtNOWIS December 7, 2017 at 10:32 pm

        Sure, I would agree with that. But I don’t think he’s any more electable than Nick Freitas, either against Corey Stewart, or against Tim Kaine. It makes sense that the NRSC would want to stop Stewart from being a national embarrassment, but Gilmore is not the man for that job.


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  • Manhatlibertarian December 7, 2017 at 10:59 pm

    NY Sen Kirsten Gillibrand has been a good friend of the Clintons for years, exchanging birthday greetings with Bill and displaying pictures of herself and him as late as last year. Now all of a sudden she thinks Bill should have resigned as Pres because of the sex scandals. Hello, where were you all these years on this subject? I love what one unnamed GOP Senator said about her vis-a-vis Clinton: “She abandoned the sinking Clinton ship with such alarcity, the rats were left gaping in astonishment.”

    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/12/07/democrats-forced-franken-out-to-ramp-up-their-strategy-to-bring-down-trump.html

  • VastBlightKingConspiracy December 8, 2017 at 2:54 am

    Doug Jones campaign faces backlash over “racist” campaign flyer.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/12/07/doug-jones-faces-backlash-over-racially-charged-campaign-flyer-in-alabama.html

    I personally don’t see why the flyer is racist, but I’m not some SJW journalist who would be supporting Doug Jones in the first place.


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    • roguemapper December 8, 2017 at 4:11 am

      I personally don’t get it either … and you probably consider me a radical SJW academic. 🙂


      Dem NC-11

    • w920us December 8, 2017 at 9:14 am

      I’m assuming it’s playing on the stereotype of black men as predators.

      Akin to Hillary calling them “super predators”.


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    • Greyhound December 8, 2017 at 10:39 am

      Honestly, its kind of a dumb ad. Its not politically tangible enough to make sense as a mail flyer, and doesn’t actually give Black people a reason to turnout to vote. “Social standards are different between White accused criminals and Black accused criminals . . . so, uh, please turnout for that special election that’s soon”. This feels more like a picture that gets shared around Left-wing Twitter in an attempt at “Social Commentary” than something you would use to get people to vote.

      Hell, the Photoshop images of the Pedophile “Free Candy” van with a Moore campaign poster on it makes more sense than this–at least that’s framed in the form of an accusation!


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